Steph Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 For example, this is a Peltier No. 16. But I can't remember why I know that since I don't see it in the picture. Maybe I have a photo of another end piece somewhere. Box tops get pictured a lot. The sides not as often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaMarble Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Most times the box no. indicates how many marbles were inside. Emphasis on "most times". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 For example, this is a Peltier No. 16. But I can't remember why I know that since I don't see it in the picture. Maybe I have a photo of another end piece somewhere. Box tops get pictured a lot. The sides not as often. Steph, Possibly, you can see around corners and don't know it. Both corners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Most times the box no. indicates how many marbles were inside. Emphasis on "most times". This one doesn't follow that rule: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Steph, Possibly, you can see around corners and don't know it. That must be it! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 The 228 box looks like it probably was designed for 28 marbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaMarble Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Great box, Hansel! Do you know if the No. 228 box always came with two columns of comics on one side or is there a chance that it came with four columns of NLR's as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Another half fast (assed?) rule: Product is as advertised ( but not always). Here the advertising printing block for the 228 box is shown with 14 marbles on each side, but in reality one side always held only 12 picture marbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaMarble Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 I know the Robert W. Kellogg Co. box is setup the same way that yours seems to be. I agree - not always as advertised. I have seen photos of the No. 33 "art deco/stained glass" box used in conjunction with the advertisements for the No. 25 art deco/stained glass box. I am guessing that the print companies assumed no one would actually count the number of marbles in the ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 I know the Robert W. Kellogg Co. box is setup the same way that yours seems to be. I agree - not always as advertised. I have seen photos of the No. 33 "art deco/stained glass" box used in conjunction with the advertisements for the No. 25 art deco/stained glass box. I am guessing that the print companies assumed no one would actually count the number of marbles in the ad. Are the numbers you mention actual numbers designated by the Peltier Co. corresponding to their respective art deco boxes or are those inventory numbers of the Tracy-Wells Co., if that's the ad you're referring to? My Peltier art deco boxes have 15, 25 and 30 marbles respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Here's a 224 box with 24 marbles, so maybe there's something in the numbering system Steph suggested (with the silent 2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaMarble Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Are the numbers you mention actual numbers designated by the Peltier Co. corresponding to their respective art deco boxes or are those inventory numbers of the Tracy-Wells Co., if that's the ad you're referring to? My Peltier art deco boxes have 15, 25 and 30 marbles respectively. I know what my gut tells me but I'll wait to answer until I can be sure. Stay tuned and I'll circle back later tonight with an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaMarble Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Okay, I was able to double check and the box numbers are indeed numbers given by Peltier. The information I have lists a No.15, No.20, No.33, No.66 and a No.100 box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Okay, I was able to double check and the box numbers are indeed numbers given by Peltier. The information I have lists a No.15, No.20, No.33, No.66 and a No.100 box. Can we presume those numbers correspond to the Tracy-Wells Co. catalog numbers for the "Assorted Rainbo Agates, with an imitation leather bag packed with each box"? i.e. Peltier No. 15 = Tracy-Wells C15 -"contains 20 marbles assorted sizes"? etc. etc. Wonder how many marbles the No.100 box contained? Must've been a big bag too. http://marbleconnection.com/topic/18607-info-about-a-peliter-bag-national-g-rainbo-agates/?p=159816 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaMarble Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 The box numbers that I listed were from Peltier directly not a catalog. The Peltier No.15 box had five columns of 3 marbles with a bag. The No.20 box came with only the 20 marbles and no bag. The No.33 box came with 33 marbles and a bag. The No.66 box came with 66 marbles and a bag. The No.100 box contained 100 marbles with no bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaMarble Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 I am not sure why the Tracy-Wells Co. lists a 20ct. box with a bag, a 34ct. box with a bag and a 68ct. box with a bag. I'll reach out to George Sourlis when I am Decatur in April and see if he has any ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 The box numbers that I listed were from Peltier directly not a catalog. The Peltier No.15 box had five columns of 3 marbles with a bag. The No.20 box came with only the 20 marbles and no bag. The No.33 box came with 33 marbles and a bag. The No.66 box came with 66 marbles and a bag. The No.100 box contained 100 marbles with no bag. Were the boxes marked with their respective numbers? Has any collector reported seeing any of these boxes you've described? (Other than the small jobber box of 20 marbles and the 100 count stock boxes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaMarble Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 No, I do not believe the stained glass boxes were marked with a number. The No.15 box was on eBay last year. Not sure who won it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 No, I do not believe the stained glass boxes were marked with a number. The No.15 box was on eBay last year. Not sure who won it though. Forgot about that one. Never seen a 33 or 66 box though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hdesousa Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 No. 7 box. Anyone seen another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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