Group 23:

[Jjay]

These blue swirly marbles are the toughest to determine the maker to me. Actually they all are tough. Thanks for your help. 

[Steph]

#4 looks interesting.  It might be Pelt Multicolor Swirl.  That would be a swirly Pelt Mutlicolor Rainbo, possibly from the NLR era.  Very desirable if that's what it turns out to be.

Put #6 in your Vitro group.

#8 might have been intended as a game marble, so that's where I'd put it.  

I'd put the rest with your general West Virginia Swirls. 

 

[Al Oregon]

Second picture of # 2 gives me pause.  Maybe a chance of a slag or MFC/CA type of marble.  Not sure.

[jeeperman]

I agree with you Al. Does look like a slag.

 

[Steph]

I take back my vote on that one.  I agree something different is happening with the white there.

[Jjay]

Thanks for all the input Steph, Al and Paul. I do appreciate it. I will post some more shots of #2. I was also wondering if #8 might be a little flamy. I'll post another one of it also. Thanks again for looking and commenting.

[Steph]

Re #8:  The underlying swirl in the mostly solid color marbles can be interesting.  However ... I wouldn't put it in with a flame lot.  I'm still seeing _essentially_ a solid color.

[Jjay]

Here are a few shots of # 2 that might be more revealing. Thanks for looking and for your input.

[Jjay]

A few more of #8 also. Thanks for looking. It stays in the game marble pile unless you tell me something different. 

Thanks Steph.

Paul and Al, I appreciate your help. Thanks

Paul, check your email if you haven't already.

Thanks

[Steph]

Well, 8 is showing more white than I thought from the original photos.  If it is not too hard to see it in hand, I guess put it in the transparent swirl pile ....

I wouldn't bill it as a flame in any case.  

[Jjay]

Thanks Steph. I remembered you telling me that it had to be 4 flames together to be a flame so I wasn't sure if those were flames.

I appreciate the help. I'm going to post a special one of a kind mystery marble next. Let me know what you think.

thanks again

Jjay

[Steph]

Not sure, but I don't think transparent swirls would usually get put in the flame category.

And one thing about the spirit of the flame is you don't want it to be something that someone has to work hard to see.  Flames kinda need to be in your face -- the kind of marble which speaks for itself.  ... does that makes sense?  It's an art, not a science, as they say. 

[winnie]

I see that differently.

For me there is no difference in the pattern between opaque or transparant flame swirls.

I put my transp- flame swirls in the flame category.

Jjay's marble is not a real flame,with only 3 flame tips.