manddrakes Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Antique-2-360-Handmade-Transparent-swirl-marble-w-Free-ship/311815174890?hash=item4899a1faea:g:9kkAAOSwTM5YuiFP Outside of the crazy asking price! What's your thoughts and what would this be worth? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 ..................... ............. u first ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, mibcapper said: ..................... ............. u first ........... I have looked it over carefully and against another example... it looks antique handmade.Value maybe 2000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 i seen this same marble and was like are you kidding me..there better be only 1 that exists.. rare combo of colors and what not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 It has been for sale for a long, long time. My opinion is that it is not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alan said: It has been for sale for a long, long time. My opinion is that it is not right. and at 9000.00 I don't see it selling anytime soon. The reason/reasons you believe it not to be right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg11 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 400 max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, greg11 said: 400 max Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 4 hours ago, manddrakes said: and at 9000.00 I don't see it selling anytime soon. The reason/reasons you believe it not to be right? I would prefer not to say in open forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Quote I have asked the seller a few questions and he stated that one like it sold for 9000.00 at morphy auction house. I would be interested in seeing that one! I can't remember morphy selling one like this? I understand you not wanting to say on open forum, but I think it would be helpful for us all. Is there some inside information you have on this marble? If so please p.m. me. Thanks, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 The seller sent me the link... http://auctions.morphyauctions.com/Outstanding_Large_Banded_Transparent_Swirl_Marble_-LOT170387.aspx Ok, so after soaking in the new found auction results. I have a couple concerns and to start with... the raised pontil and the flat spot. Could this marbles be a same as cane or a fake? I would really like to know what glass makers and seasoned handmade collector have to say. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclsu Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 They certainly do look similar, but I don't a judgement could be made about same cane from those pics. Size is certainly rare, as is the Orange color, but something about the eBay one says buffed or polished to me. Either way I wouldn't expect this marble to garner such a high asking price (short of it being the same marble, and seller is trying to get what they paid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie_T Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 20 hours ago, greg11 said: 400 max LOL... I think I would be on the $400 train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinemades Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 To be fair to the seller the marble is identical to the marble in Morphy auction. I think it is a late antique handmade, early 20th century. Flat spots take away from grade and value. Very large size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 hour ago, machinemades said: To be fair to the seller the marble is identical to the marble in Morphy auction. I think it is a late antique handmade, early 20th century. Flat spots take away from grade and value. Very large size. I agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 One I bought recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjbkrb Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 I would be interested in what it did under a black light? I agree with the odd pontil remark . I have been collecting from the early 1970's and like mostly the early handmades. I have not seen this type of pontil till the Belgium and the California sulphides showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie_T Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 That is a SWEET marble you got there Manddrakes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBlock Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 The air bubbling under the surface and the striated parallel lines in the surface are indicative of a remelted marble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 10 hours ago, gjbkrb said: I would be interested in what it did under a black light? I agree with the odd pontil remark . I have been collecting from the early 1970's and like mostly the early handmades. I have not seen this type of pontil till the Belgium and the California sulphides showed up. The pontil has me uneasy as well. I believe there's a few threads on both the Belgium and California sulphides! Thanks for the input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Mikie_T said: That is a SWEET marble you got there Manddrakes! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 5 hours ago, BobBlock said: The air bubbling under the surface and the striated parallel lines in the surface are indicative of a remelted marble Interesting and would this play into the weird pontil and the flat spot? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 It could absolutely. Re heating can destroy a pontil and then it might be added back on. I have not seen but heard of this a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 18 hours ago, gjbkrb said: I would be interested in what it did under a black light? I agree with the odd pontil remark . I have been collecting from the early 1970's and like mostly the early handmades. I have not seen this type of pontil till the Belgium and the California sulphides showed up. What are we looking for under a black light? I will ask the seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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