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  1. I thought the Dragons were all NLR. I am behind on info again.
  2. Very nice ! Great information and pictures. CAC oxblood. I have exact matching cullet which was dig at the factory.
  3. I saw your other pictures and I agree with CAC.
  4. All poor condition. Condition is number one with marble collectors. Patina is not good with marbles.
  5. Eggs and Sausage Red Devils. DOH
  6. First question to answer is your marble a NLR or Rainbo ? I have never heard of MK Sunburst ? So far the most known marbles labeled Windshield are certain Peltiers. Stretching the original names is a big problem and getting bigger every year, creating more confusion as if there is not enough already.
  7. I would have no problem with this marble being labeled a CAC submarine. if definitely CAC ? It would be on the lower value of most CAC submarine marbles. They are transparent base, some or many also have colors on the inside. I think they can be a patch ribbon style or swirl style. Most are colored transparent base. Submarine name has always been confusing with different opinions. Even the Peltier submarine is confusing for many. Some collectors want a submarine to be transparent blue base. I stay more away from the submarine label. Adding submarine name should not increase the value. The marble is what it is and any buyer should decide for their own self what they want to label it. I would call or label many of the named or called CAC Exotics as submarine type. If clear base CAC with action on the inside then you get into cyclones, tornadoes, etc. More confusing labels with not many set definitions or requirements. As you have seen it is hard to get people to pin down a definite definition or requirements. Other WV swirls in other colors also look similar to the one above. But they are never labeled as submarine. Alley Mountain Dew similar construction and Alley exotic corals are similar construction. Plus others.
  8. wvrons

    Part #2

    The yellow base with red is a nice Alley.
  9. Top row left to right #1= Peltier MCS - Multi Color Swirl #2= newer Jabo #3= probably Alley swirl or weak flame. Could be CAC ? Maybe the best marble of the group, only one picture. Bottom #1= Maybe Vacor ? Can only see one side. #2= Vitro A smooth flat surface will let the marbles show better. Camera is focusing more on the background than the marble.
  10. Very few marble companies made marbles with a flat or matt finish. If they did the marbles were more likely game marbles or industrial marbles. I am sure that 95-99% of all play marbles were a gloss shiny finish. No reason the kids would want a flat finish rather than a gloss finish. Your marbles probably have what most refer to as pocket ware. Pocket ware is not a hit, chip, sparkle, or moon. Pocket ware is just ware from being handled rolled around with other marbles. Roll or rub two pieces of most glass together for enough time and the glass objects will grind against each other and this grinding will take the shine off . It is a more even all over grind than I hit or chip etc.in one localized spot. The hits which cause sparkles, moons and chips are much harder impact and in one spot. Pocket ware Is slighter abrasion all over the surface of the marble. Pocket ware is very common with vintage or old marbles. You will not see big numbers of Jabo marbles with pocket ware. Because they are new enough that most have not had years and years of rubbing together. A three head marble polishing machine can bring most pocket ware marbles back to mint with only a final polish or buff. But If you can find someone to do it, it may cost $2- $3 or $5.00 each to get this done. Add that plus shipping etc. to the normal market value and only few machine made marbles are worth the effort time and cost to polish or buff. Most all veneered marbles(later MK- later Vitro - others) are not a candidate for polishing or even a buff. The colors are thin on the surface and to much color will be removed by polishing or buffing. You have marbles with normal pocket ware, Light damage, but all over the surface of the entire marble. Most collectors shy away from marbles with pocket ware. Condition, condition, number 1.
  11. Nice find. Great price, probably the lowest you will ever get a nice Pelt Christmas Tree for. All the effort pays off. The effort can pay off in many different ways.
  12. Jabo swirl with drizzle. Or Heaton swirl with drizzle.The blue, green color has a slight bleed over in the white base. It is not electric color, just transparent, translucent blue, green. The more times I look at it, I lean more Heaton Agate. It is a white base with transparent green, added to the base. Not always but usually, the largest amount of color is the base glass in the main furnace. There is more white with this marble than the green. The green was added near the front of the furnace as the main base glass exits to the shear then to the marble machine rolls. White is many time the base glass color. White was the lowest price colored glass. Other colored glass cost more than white. Red cost the most. Making 1000lbs. of marbles, the best cost is 800lb. of white and 200lb. of the transparent green, for the colored swirl marbles like the above. Sometimes it is very difficult to tell what the base glass is. Maybe two or three colors and all look to be the same amounts. Transparent color helps has you can see more inside the marble. With all opaque colors you cannot tell what or how much of each color may be inside the marble. Plus marbles have many exceptions. You have to go with the majority dealing with marbles.
  13. Fun and work. More work than most expect. I have dug marbles with 80-90 different people over the years. Only about 10 of those ever came back for a second day. After they are dug that is only half the work. Once they are home then the work cleaning them properly begins. I have buckets of dirty uncleaned marbles from 10-15 years ago. It is lots of time and work. No dug marble is free.
  14. You are 100% correct. There is no substitute for actual hands on, seeing and feeling the actual thing. Also the books and internet can never replace the same results as talking marbles face to face with collectors and dealers in person at marble shows or anyplace, live in person.
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