popculturizm Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 this marble has very clear and sharp "crimp" or "scissor" marks they seem to be flatter than any of the other "hand mades" I have. making the marble a little flat sided (on both ends) it is in pretty much unplayed condition and is a MIB - would the "flatness" detract from it's overall value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 If so, it would probably be a personal decision by the buyer... I've never heard of anyone holding that against a marbles condition, but that doesn't mean there aren't folks who like to keep 'em round!! It's not uncommon, especially in peewees. I wouldn't worry too much about it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Chamberlain Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Roundness is a marble attribute that seems to have held sway pretty strong through the ages. They do roll better. And with a handmade like this one which is about as basic a latticino as you can come by everything else about it really needs to comply to acceptable standards. I'm still reeling from a David Salazar 'Hops'/Beer marble that was returned to me a cpl. months ago due to the complaint that it wasn't round or perfectly round. You couldn't have told by me but I guess when I did get it back and rolled it across a flat table it sorta swerved. Was a little non-plussed on that one but promptly refunded; then the buyer kindly reminded me that I'd actually sent it to him on approval.....duh! Swift! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 LOL.... So, I guess they ARE out there!!!! LOL I have some peewees that actually resemble close to a miniature tuna can!! That's the way they were made. That's the way they were sold... Since I never plan on using them for a game, it never occurred to me to find fault... But, that's me.... I do have an issue with contemporaries that have "stuff" on them.... Bumps, octopi, frogs, etc... I really like them as art and have no issue with artists making them... But, I have a personal issue calling them "marbles." Again, that's just me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Since I never plan on using them for a game, it never occurred to me to find fault... But, that's me.... I do have an issue with contemporaries that have "stuff" on them.... Bumps, octopi, frogs, etc... I really like them as art and have no issue with artists making them... But, I have a personal issue calling them "marbles." Again, that's just me.... Well, it's me too. Out-of-roundness has never stopped me from purchasing an antique hand made,and neither has the roughness of the pontil marks. Crucial for me are type, condition, size (smaller than 1 1/8), rarity, quality of workmanship displayed in the core and/or outer decoration, and whether or not I already have a better-than-good example. I think a lot of hand-made collectors feel the same, since such marbles don't actually have to "work" as marbles anymore. The rounder the better of course, but it's not really a factor for me. And sorry, but I don't even LIKE the contemporaries with "stuff" on them (JUST MY OPINION, OK?), and don't -- just can't -- consider them "marbles" either - - - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semdot Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Some buyers want round marbles. Most (I think) don't care, especially concerning handmades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 By no means have I seen all the handmades out there, but I've found that the "older" handmades are more often round than the "newer" ones. Most times the type you see out of round have unfinished pontils and typically aren't as "fancy" or symmetrical compared to the older ones. It shouldn't affect condition rating but should be noted/mentioned as a trait when describing (say if you were ever going to sell it or something). Some people may or may not find it desirable based on how round it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 By no means have I seen all the handmades out there, but I've found that the "older" handmades are more often round than the "newer" ones. Most times the type you see out of round have unfinished pontils and typically aren't as "fancy" or symmetrical compared to the older ones. It shouldn't affect condition rating but should be noted/mentioned as a trait when describing (say if you were ever going to sell it or something). Some people may or may not find it desirable based on how round it is. I totally agree. Ann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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