Original Surface?

[hdesousa 0]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-German-Onionskin-Marble-2-25in-Unbelievable-Condition-and-Color-Must-See-/381252606741

[kbobam 0]

I don't really have any experience with this sort of thing.

But my gut reaction is that the marble seems to have a good number of bubbles close to the surface.

So I'd guess that there would be things that look like blow-holes if any significant polishing was done. ( :

[jeroen 0]

I think the surface is original. I do see some small scratches and flea bites. see the photos I enhanced in photoshop a little.

[jeroen 0]

small scratches

[jeroen 0]

scratch. These would probably disappear after polishing. And the pontil looks ok also, although the photo is not sharp.

[Alan 0]

Those photos are not sharply focused. I'd like to see it in focus under better (not flat) lighting.

[JVVmarbles 0]

I also think the surface is original, if you look closely at the pics you see fine lines on the surface, these lines would disappear with buffing or polishing. The person who bought it, is very lucky to have this beauty!

[hdesousa 0]

What do you make of the horizontal row of fine bubbles at 7 o'clock, near the surface,about 2/3 the way from the center to the periphery?

[jeroen 0]

The row I pointed out with the arrow? I does not look suspicious to me. Hansel, do you think it was formed by reheating or something else?

[hdesousa 0]

Yes, those bubbles. Is that a sign of having been remelted?

[jeroen 0]

I thought that the many small surface lines and thousands of tiny air bubbles are signs of remelting, like this example. The air bubbles on the single pontil seems different, but it is hard to tell

[lstmmrbls 0]

Remelts do not necessarily have that crazed like surface. They can have a surface nearly identical to an original surface if the person remelting uses wood rounding blocks similar to what was used originally. and if they punty on the original "pontil" mark and polish afterwords in the same style as originally used. They can be nearly indistinguishable other than some small bubble lines and an uneven or "wobbly" look to the "pattern" of what the original would have looked like

[BobBlock 0]

As lstmmrbles said, remelts are difficult to identify in many instances, but you usually do see the tiny air bubbles under the surface at the spots were original damage existed, and you see the pattern of concentric rings around the marble. The other thing to look for is certain pattern around the bottom pontil where the glass was feathered when creating the pontil. I had two remelts come in over the weekend in a consignment and I'll image the pontil of one later and post it.

[jeroen 0]

Bob,

Can you post the photos of the remelts

[BobBlock 0]

Sorry, I sent them back without imaging them. I won't take remelts on consignment.

I have one in a box somewhere here, that I bought as an example. I'll try and find it today and take some images

[jeroen 0]

Remelts do not necessarily have that crazed like surface. They can have a surface nearly identical to an original surface if the person remelting uses wood rounding blocks similar to what was used originally. and if they punty on the original "pontil" mark and polish afterwords in the same style as originally used. They can be nearly indistinguishable other than some small bubble lines and an uneven or "wobbly" look to the "pattern" of what the original would have looked like

Do you have an example of such very good remelts? As I mostly buy marbles without seeing them in person, I would like to see what they look like, so I can learn from it, and others too.

[jeroen 0]

Sorry, I sent them back without imaging them. I won't take remelts on consignment.

I have one in a box somewhere here, that I bought as an example. I'll try and find it today and take some images

Thank you

[hdesousa 0]

Do you have an example of such very good remelts? As I mostly buy marbles without seeing them in person, I would like to see what they look like, so I can learn from it, and others too.

Here's one that's almost certainly remelted, with an engraved (recessed) pontil.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Handmade-Large-German-Onionskin-Marble-2-053-Mint-/111673704390

[jeroen 0]

If that is a remelt, than they do a very good job! The pontil looks like the rough ones one would see on later handmade marbles joseph coats an lutz marbles etc.

[machinemades 0]

That recession on the pontil could have happened when they chip the glass extension before grinding to clean it up. The facets look to be too good for a remelt job to me.

[JVVmarbles 0]

Here's one that's almost certainly remelted, with an engraved (recessed) pontil.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Handmade-Large-German-Onionskin-Marble-2-053-Mint-/111673704390

Yes. This marbe looks like a remelt.

[JVVmarbles 0]

A friend of mine bought this marble and the surface is all original. It has one tiny chip near the pontil and a few scratches, the rest of the surface is mint. He send me a better pic of the pontil.

[JVVmarbles 0]

And another pic