eggie Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 HI HI In 2018 i'm focused on the Early German striped 2 - seam marbles Here 2 very nice ones, dia ca. 23,5 mm I like the colours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggie Posted May 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 more pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Nice! That's a lot of color, especially on the right. I don't remember ever seeing that color combination before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 These two I am posting were sold as old German machine mades. Don't really know how to classify them or attribute correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eggie Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 nice marble i have more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Who do we believe actually made these? Are these early Veiliglas marbles or made by somebody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggie Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Germanmade striped opaque 2 seam marbles ca 1920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Does anybody have any idea about the name of the company that made these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 The only German machine made company I have heard a hint about is H.E. Hopf. They were talked about in one of the marble books. This is the same company that netted some Veiliglas marbles for sale. They caused the confusion about Veiliglas being made in Germany as that is what is written on those mesh bags. I have one of these bags in my collection. They made various clay marbles and supposedly one of the Alley machines made its way to Germany under its ownership. Definitely want to try to learn more about this company to figure out what they made in terms of glass marbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godown Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 There is a " chance " of them being made in Lauscha on a copy of an American machine, dont know if its the same machine http://www.murmelwelt.de/historie.html Translated version Machine-made marbles Towards the end of the 19th century, the Americans began to develop machines for the mechanical production of marbles. When the marble production in Germany was interrupted during the First World War and the machines of the Americans were further matured, the end of the hand-made, German glass marbles was sealed. America was now the leader in marble production. Companies such as the "Akro Agate Company" or the "Peltier Glass Company" supplied the American market. In Lauscha one had copied one of the American machines and had to pay high penalty for it. also on the same site they show machine made marbles under the heading Neue Murmeln or translated new marbles i believe this would refer to machine mades being modern and handmades being old the German made wire pulls will be in the mesh bags and Veiligglas are a different type The bag is one Buckeye posted a while back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) Those are Veiliglas in the mesh bags. Those are the very ones bagged by H.E. Hopf I mentioned that caused the confusion Note: I was remembering wrong about the company/jobber who packaged these. Not H.E. Hopf but Shackman. Edited July 29, 2018 by Nantucketdink misinformation by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 The "bags" were made in West Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 I am wondering how we upheld a US Patent against copyright infringement in Germany back then, unless the high price they paid was our defeat of them in WW2. If they paid a fine that would be on record and would be some great info to find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 H.E. Hopf Marble Factory (Spielwarenfabrik) was/is in Coburg Germany per the Greenberg book. I have no clue about when they began in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 I think the striped 2 seam have been mainly attributed to the Seppenhutte Glassworks in Lauscha. I've got a few of the transparent ones, I bought from a German collector, but those opaque ones are lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 I gotta remember to put this thread in the archives someday when it winds down. keeperthread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 9 hours ago, ManofKent said: I think the striped 2 seam have been mainly attributed to the Seppenhutte Glassworks in Lauscha. I've got a few of the transparent ones, I bought from a German collector, but those opaque ones are lovely. Great info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 I didn't really pay attention to this type of marble until a month ago. MarbleAlan's site has some pretty great info I obviously basically skipped including advertisements possibly showing machine mades. It looked to me like it may have been G. Kuhnhert who made them instead of Seppenhutte. I need to read and look it over some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast_dave Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 I've always found so many transparents and almost no opaques over the years. (to our overseas friends) How much harder to find are the Striped Opaques Vs. Transparents for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 On 7/24/2018 at 4:44 PM, westcoast_dave said: I've always found so many transparents and almost no opaques over the years. (to our overseas friends) How much harder to find are the Striped Opaques Vs. Transparents for you? I've yet to find a striped opaque in the UK, have found a few striped transparents, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godown Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 I managed to find only one for sale since your post Dave the 2 blue one`s maybe especially the one on the left i would say most likely is The transparent types are easy to buy this was just one lot i saw many in groups And this great site has them not sure how many he sells but at 2.50 each i would imagine they sell https://www.glasmurmeln.com/Machine-made-marbles.htm I have also never got one in an Aussie lot unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast_dave Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Thanks for the replies. I'll be on the hunt for some opaques now. How about you Eggie? How's your luck with the opaques? The two you posted in the beginning are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godown Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 no worry's Dave its an interesting topic Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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