chocomibs Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ric Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 I don't think I have ever seen that kind of yellow on a MFC. Does it look like there is a pontil on the other side of the marble (opposite the "9")? A few different views might help - my first impression is it that it's from across the pond somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockgardenplants Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ric said: my first impression is it that it's from across the pond somewhere I could agree with that. That is an awesome marble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomibs Posted January 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 Here's the back. The red red is actually translucent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 It is a very cool and intriguing marble but these types are definitely not my strong suit and I really have no idea where it came from. It looks hand-gathered though and the colors remind me of many Czech marbles I've seen. Could we see a straight on shot of this area? No guarantee that it will help me much though. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 Why are you telling people it is a MFC ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhomer2172 Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 As stated here many times, MFC had no red colored glass, let alone two colored slags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomibs Posted January 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 it was an assumption from the 9 looking swirl and nobody corrected me yet is what it boils down to. Kind of just using it colloquially. I've been going off books and trading to learn about this for some time now and I hit a wall on some ids. Someone else just told me last night it's a Canadian transitional, they seemed v knowledgeable about it. Another new one for me 9 hours ago, wvrons said: Why are you telling people it is a MFC ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, chocomibs said: Someone else just told me last night it's a Canadian transitional, they seemed v knowledgeable about it . . . A Canadian transitional would be a new one for me too. I'll have to see if I can learn more about those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomibs Posted January 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, Ric said: A Canadian transitional would be a new one for me too. I'll have to see if I can learn more about those. They said there's a group of transitionals that came from Canada but aren't defined as being made in Canada as of yet. Another person chimed in from Canada and agreed. If I find something on them il share it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 So it sounds like it still might be from over the pond . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 My first though was I think that chocomibs meant to say CAC. These colors are in the CAC pallette. Why not a CAC? I appreciate all opinons--- Marble--On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomibs Posted January 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 4 hours ago, akroorka said: My first though was I think that chocomibs meant to say CAC. These colors are in the CAC pallette. Why not a CAC? I appreciate all opinons--- Marble--On!! Ohhhh yes thank you, I get those two mixed up often. Which i assume is what CAC intended haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 33 minutes ago, chocomibs said: Ohhhh yes thank you, I get those two mixed up often. Which i assume is what CAC intended haha I can read mistakes--mostly because I have made many. MFC vs CAC is a common mistake when using the written word, even with the well seasoned collectors. So—I do not blame you for calling it a CAC—MFC is not excusable. I would still love to see some more opinions on this one. I love all opinions and I wish for some more regarding this marble. Marble—On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 With the red being translucent, I'm inclined to lean CAC rather than foreign. Nice marble regardless! A reduction in condition can be overlooked on one like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, cheese said: With the red being translucent, I'm inclined to lean CAC rather than foreign. Nice marble regardless! A reduction in condition can be overlooked on one like this. Would being CAC make this a HG Red Devil then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 I would think so but I don't have that level of confident information on that sort of CAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 I agree with Cheese. Many different companies and people made hand gathered slags with a 9 pattern. Spreading assumption information is about the highest thing giving this hobby a bad reputation with new collectors and buyers. There is a big difference in assuming what something might be and telling people it is such. Because no one corrects you does not make it a accurate identification on just a assumption. More than just being a hand gathered 9 pattern is needed for a identification. An id might be this marble looks hand gathered and has a 9 pattern. Unless you have more known traits to place it with one certain company, name, place or time. It may be a rare marble. It needs some research from reliable resources to find out for sure. I have found a lot of different opinions on CAC Blue Devil and CAC Red Devil, if it is CAC ? There are also some odd and rare Barberton , Lieghton and other hand gathered marbles with the 9. If it was made in the US ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff54 Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 CAC is my 1st impression on first post. It's definitely not those thought from Canada manufacture. Not anything European I have seen. However, Translucent throws me as I thought same colors in a swirl I have. IDK are there any expert class CAC collectors on line any more? Bob B is a good guy I kike him, but I have seen him site way to many Dug-up HG Akros as CAC so.... I do not think this is an Akro yet, that's become a tough area since the HG dug-ups. Otherwise, translucent red, maybe for lack of more red it's a yellow devil. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 I know some people might shake their head at the idea, but did it come in a group with any similar looking examples? For instance: if it came in a group from UK and 95% of the marbles were Veliliglass, Yasuda, and German Handmades... FWIW, it doesn't jump out as any particular manufacturer to me, and my opinion would be narrowed down by process of elimination instead of any particular tell-tale feature. That's what leans me towards a hand gathered CAC with a bunch of surface wear, but I can't say I've seen one quite like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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