This is such an informative thread.
I have a fairly large number of what I thought were all Wales Pinchers, but now it seems some of them could be Seike or even Matsuno.
Out of these four examples, would 2 be Seike, 1 and 3 be Wales and 4 Matsuno?
Or am I misunderstanding the first post in this thread?
Any further examples/info is greatly appreciated