Out of my 3700 or so Vacor made marbles, I have only one of each of these kind.
I think this might be a more recent 5/8 version of a Michelangelo with a more relaxed swirl.
Am I correct?
and this, I think it is a fairly scarce 5/8 Arctic Bear?
Thank you kindly for your thoughts. Both are pretty neat marbles in nice condition.