Vacor Mega Marbles Question - Eclipse vs Current Michelangelo

[The Nickel Guy]

I am wondering if these are just the same marble. There have been at least 4 generations of "Michelangelo" and I do believe that I have a picture here of the most recent under the type that is now being net bagged and sold as "Eclipse". I just think they are the same just different names. Whadda ya know? and Thank you!

( Pictures make these look different shades but in hand they are the same. )

I am also thinking that some new version of "Mummy" is pretty much the same marble as the last "Orangutan"?

To me there is little difference except maybe a slightly different base transparent glass. Orangutan appears (maybe) to be a bit orange, and Mummy somewhat purple. Duh, drives me nutz.

[Al Oregon]

It does seem to make sense. Michelangelos, per Pete's LOM Board database describes Michelangelo as - "Transparent blue base swirled with red, white, blue and yellow." Didier, on his website, doesn't list Eclipse separately but has the name linked to Michelangelo. Back in 2005 time frame, David Chamberlain had the plastic boxes of marbles from Vacor and the upper left one in the picture here, has the name Eclipse (but, of course, no description). I have not closely examined the actual marbles to confirm a transparent blue base in both types but if the other colors match (red, white, blue & yellow), then it makes more sense.

 

[The Nickel Guy]

Thank you so much Al for responding with such a thought out post. I have Mega Marble net bags of Eclipse but my latest generation Michelangelo arrived in a bulk 2 lb package. I can see some slight difference in perhaps the duration of the making, a little wider ribbons of red, maybe a slight shade difference but to me, they are the same. The patterns are the same. Just rolled out at different times I bet.

The Mummys, well . . . they just went into the Orangutan bin and net bag. If they are Mummys, I can always fix that down the road.

[tkt]

the orangutan/mummy question has taken a lot of my time but still hazy on both of them.seems like vacor has lots of variants but the results are often cool to me.the orangutan does seem orange to me.this one was hard to id but i was told it was probably a mummy…

[tkt]

I agree the mummy are more purpleish

[tkt]

6 hours ago, Al Oregon said:

It does seem to make sense. Michelangelos, per Pete's LOM Board database describes Michelangelo as - "Transparent blue base swirled with red, white, blue and yellow." Didier, on his website, doesn't list Eclipse separately but has the name linked to Michelangelo. Back in 2005 time frame, David Chamberlain had the plastic boxes of marbles from Vacor and the upper left one in the picture here, has the name Eclipse (but, of course, no description). I have not closely examined the actual marbles to confirm a transparent blue base in both types but if the other colors match (red, white, blue & yellow), then it makes more sense.

 

thanks for the Dalmatian photo

[The Nickel Guy]

It appears that there is a bit of black in the swirling there in your image of what you think is a Mummy and I have no problem with it. I can easily see in your photo the purpl-ish color.

I do think if you sort the Orangutan from the Mummy outdoors it is much easier to tell the difference between the purple and orange base glass in natural light.

While going through a bout 160 Roosters last night ( Another Nightmare ) I have a whole net bag (24 + 1 ) that has predominately powder blue instead of white swirls on all of them. I have some with Orange/Yellow blended in with the white, I have alternating White and Yellow swirls and some are a deep dark red base and some are a much brighter vibrant red. I suppose I could go crazy figuring out which are Fire or Fire Blaze and which are Roosters too. 

So I made up my own tag and call the real fancy ones Super Roosters.

This is Vacor, it is sometimes like a box of Cracker Jack with a surprise in every net bag.

[Al Oregon]

From Pete's Database again - he has Mummy as Transparent purple with orange swirls and Orangutan as Transparent orange with orange swirls.  Didier's site says Translucent purple for Mummy but otherwise same as Pete's.

[tkt]

cool tag and name