marbleus1

old pic. I probably have some better, but Pelt "nice Pelt" still one of my collection week points.

David

I sold the rolling stones K&M

I keep most of my mis- buys

for one reason or another

David

quote:"Well guys i guess im the stupid one this time"

I'd have to disagree simple ignorance, and looks like ur well on the way to rectifing that lack of.

Now for stupid, hang out and watch my dumbass work.

David

No baffle Mr Marblemiser my lack of communcation skills and not taking a breath.

The word drivel has been used Effectively(sssh cant expose ur weakness) of recent, concerning meanderings, I did a quick search and its not even in this thread..prior to ur use.

When I posted, the word was fresh in the mind and poped back out and I've run with it. and it is drivel.

quote marbleus1:"Well believe it or not, accept it or not, every breath you take comes with obligation."

well believe you/me if your gonna type such drivel lol ya know it

bam the word popped in

quote marbleus1:"Yea I know drivel - YOU kiss my ass"

when I obviously was talking to the word you posted how can I tell you I really wasnt talking to you at the time

my most truthful - I was not

If you would check after the kiss my ass thing/ sorry the entire post was basically a summary of the Why

and was addressing the entirity of a thread, I had beat far as I could, and a final beat down of some of the percieved illogical counterpoints.

Your post was much more in the spirit of the board, contained nothing anyone could take issue with and I failed to express myself properly.

I am sorry it read that way.

David

somebody jus told me to quit cussing - shes right thar that kharma

Edit: its late and the roany jus posted ahead on page 4

rotflmao the floor

I question his answers

but aint gonna dare try to top him

he use to be here most days!!!

two shows a day

green/blue ribbon on mine.

why am I still on the floor

Steve I reviewed marbos complaint post, but I read it as a complaint not a bash. Proper place? Marbos decision.

Complaints come with retailing and all Sellers need to accept that, comes with the territory.

and where thay show up ......damnitman comes with the selling. jus does.

On the other hand your post was a jab "dysfunctional" could be viewed as a humerous jab but with yalls "history"

probably a jab.

We All Do It

We all need to do better.

David

I spoke with Mr. Sturtz(psia-Antiques) for 3 hours last night we talked unto the wee hours (lucky for ya'll, kept me off the board)

The most enjoyable marble non marble conversation I have had for some time.

as I said it will take much effort by all, you to.

We could sure use the help?

hear! hear!

some gave all

god bless

David

I often state my opinion could be flawed, it well could be(probably not).

That is why I engage, I like to be right(surprised?)and without a test how can it be right.

I expected some contention, if you entered this thread so did you!

I have tried to moderate my responses to the contention - I asked for it!

and long ago I posted my response to the Value question I posed, i might have shared some info and insight with a few.

It was my intent.

I am guilty of ulterior motives though.

I am hauling this dead assed horse out of here, today tomorrow or next year for whatever that means

it would be appreciated kindly if ya lend a hand, if I got the wrong end tell me the right.

if we bring our disagreements with each other into every thread we will not progress

If you have a problem with someone [(not contentious troublesome topics like this, here it should be expected maybe not if we progress) where we are now, yep this topic trouble but for "getting it straight"] take it to the Board of Inquiry.

better yet reread be sure, I have to reread the same topics to get it close to "right" and end up wrong.

If ya got to be real mean maybe it should be private so you dont come off sounding like......them/me

I have been wrong very wrong so has Every poster in this thread and on this board.

Yes I do have your back and urs

balance lets true her up a mite.

david

and me!

I hope I have not bashed Jabo,

did bash a mite but they were mean to me! lol

It is my opinion that Jabo has responsibilities

, I dont believe my opinion makes it so.

I most certainly appreciate the participation of all and especially those with dramatically differing viewpoints who are still willing to engage even if to humor me.

I will not try to argue against the "dead horse" syndrome, stop beat'n makes sense.

but the carcuss is smelling up the place and whatever the reason its been here for years now

I was gone and it was here

try to talk about most anything, next thing ya know the smell.

I am in search of the contention

enlighten me, where the smell is coming from (lol, yea I set ya, go ahead hit it if it makes ya feel better, freebie)

theys some stuff needs working through, dont think so, okay

I do

The last big fued I was "party" to, I did not do enough to derail it, I had some small influence on some of the players. The only real regret I have ever had on this board is that I did not.

So long pointless rambling post - no regrets

Not meeting my membership obligations regretful

David

I know many/maybe most dont feel the same - ur bussiness

I'm glad I do

I dont actual know much about talk boards

but this is the best board on the net and we will make it better

Drivel Alert

more drivel ahead

I promise!! ya got my Word and it has Value

saddle the STEED

Most did not

I'm to rusty to attempt contemp.

but they'll get IDed soon here.

david

I collected marbles for a long time, played um as a child. Sometime back I decided to become a marble collector instead.

Well believe it or not, accept it or not, every breath you take comes with obligation.

Yea I know drivel - YOU kiss my ass

So "being" a marble collector differs considerably from collecting. I have to know things, I have to learn things.

I have an obligation to myself, to my peers, to those few who think I know something.

When I talked about the $1200 10 lbs of New run marbles, I didnt say I overpaid, I got 400/500 marbles, hell I dont know 15/20 collectors sets, tank washes........................

See above, I'm a marble collector Ive been doing my homework, I do know the "value" of theses marbles and I've done as well with these purchases as any.

Matteroffact Ive done well enough with what has become a monstorous(to me) collection that if any $1000 or hell $2000 purchase/addition falls completly flat/no value, the collection overall can absorb it and its of no real consequence, cept to Ole marble collector confidence. So again I aint worried about the money. I dont collect for money.

Why do I care if some smoe who I dont know spends $36 on a $2 marble

We all know I could throw paragragh after paragraph

but no,

ya making my heart hurt,

not as you suspected.

and that always pisses me off.

Instead

How dare you!!!

How the hell can YOU NOT care

what the hell is wrong with you!

it does matter, everything matters

and one day when it counts

you are going to regret ur callowness

ah hell or not

No I aint done

David

act like ya dont get the point of the thread

go ahead

and if ya dont

my most sincerest

damnitman

if I cared what dyslitic free verse meant I'd probably be inclined to want to thump you a mite

since I dont, you okay

I most certainly hold you responsible for the words you type as I stand behind mine.

Carry On!!!

Steve - they most certainly Are Jabo marbles.

and of course Jabo has no responsibility

nobody does!! - not

I do - marble collector

I also unfortunatly recently allowed Wall Street to jack us for a 100 trillion or so and am currently involved in filling the Gulf of Mexico with crude Oil.

I had obligations I did not fulfill

I'd say sorry but it seems insincere!

Cool Beans

david

Well maybe there are people who read words that matter.

maybe it aint mine but yours

maybe during what should be great marble times

it aint shaping up the way they envisioned.

maybe they will change it.

Maybe since its Capitalist in nature and interest has been built and nothing owed.

maybe it could be better.

maybe not

if not jus for those that wrestle thru the numerous threads.

Maybe there are marble makers who dont say if you dont like it dont buy my marbles.

David

quote:"Perhaps you can guide the thread by stating without complaint exactly what you suggest should be done to address the issues that you perceive. I don't see what path you are suggesting."

I did, quote marbleus1:" The marbles are as a whole Horribly overpriced.

Nothing other than Mint should be allowed to leave the factory

considering the prices garnered and Quality touted.

That is not the case its buyer beware as to condition, quality and quanity to be produced.

If that adds up to more than a .50 to $10 marble under any circumstance I dont know nutt'n bout marbles"

quote:"So clarify that sentence for me. Are you saying that by being a "collector" (a potential buyer) that you should be able to dictate some aspects of production/quality control/what is sold/pricing? If so - which and to what degree?"

Not me Jabo

its their reputation under disscussion.

it was two sentences Alan 1st -ur suggestion - dont buy 2nd my response

quote marbleus1:

"and not buying the marbles probably is the cure

are you suggesting for anyone else who may be reading and wants round marbles or just me."

By the Way Dave McCullough your dealer reps. they are a rough lot.

damnitman made me cry a little!

another response I'm on a tear.

lol

Okay I buy beat up big boy MFC's jus to get them out of play and in a collection,

as likely to hand you a $250 one of a kind vintage marble to keep as a $1

But how the heck yall collect marbles without investing baffles me?

it jus does, call it what you want

one costly hobby

and I really think perspective is needed and if you maybe aint as sharp as the amazing talent around here, then some navigation is helpful

thus marble disscussion board.

And Dr dont give a shit and Alan says the marbles are worth whatever ur willing to pay

marbleus1 says they have the value posted above .50 to $10 and with all things remainig the same the actuall return value can only fall

We all agree they are not an investment.

if pretty alone is worth $127 in a marble go for it.

david

let us know when you hear!

david

Alan its a marble disscussion board and the discussion of the price of marbles is an affront on..what again

patriotism

as a consumer I most certainly do have the right to state what I think,

thats part of manufacturing having to put up with the damn customer.

and not buying the marbles probably is the cure

are you suggesting for anyone else who may be reading and wants round marbles or just me.

David

I got some skin in the game I collect marbles and I collect these marbles

makes it MY damn bussiness

so dont presume to tell me mine..in the same breath you decry it

quote:"Whats next? Government-mandated regulations on Jabo runs?"

what say we jus start with wall street then maybe off shore drilling

work our way towards marbles

No real answers.

I cant figure it.

and obviously cant pose the thought well enough to be understood.

So at this time condensed

The marbles are as a whole Horribly overpriced.

Nothing other than Mint should be allowed to leave the factory

considering the prices garnered and Quality touted.

That is not the case its buyer beware as to condition, quality and quanity to be produced.

If that adds up to more than a .50 to $10 marble under any circumstance I dont know nutt'n bout marbles

So sayeth marbleus1

Half of the board wont talk to the other half jus spew. not jus this one.

Of the Run "partners" 1/3 dont like 2/3

The tales that are going around(whoevers reading this, not urs, everybodys got tales everybody)

its like Peyton Place

long established relationships leading to fights and slander.

everyone accused of everything by everybody

ya cant list all

and there aint a problem

David

Not at all I appreciate anyone reconizing that I aint jus beat'n a bush. even if I am it aint for the pure "fun of it.

I have been acquiring samples of these marble since the beginning

and out of round and other than mint is prevalent.

I believe most partners have had inquries into there rejects by "retailers".

I dont think for collector grade marbles anything but Mint should be allowed to leave the premises

It dont matter who I got them from

they are Jabos

if my jabos arnt up to snuff who would I blame.

Jabo, who else

everyones ok with that? it was retoricle believe you me I know the answer to that.

David

David is this the tretise or the the assailment? quote marbleus1:"I will kindly thank you to not interfer with the questions I have about MY marbles.

Maybe sometimes you will have to read it twice to understand me, I'm sorry.

but I'm done with the what does it matter to you"

and your post is response to me for that whoa

let me step it back a notch

afor you really get mad

Try this one

Should every marble made be available for market?

I'm thinking ur first post said you didnt see the need for..........blah..blah

qoute:"Maybe I don't get it but I don't see where the matter of Quality Control has anything differently to do with these Jabo runs than any past runs in marble History. Would you care to elucidate on this 'cause I'm all ears and I will admit it if I flat out missed a clear and lucid explanation already. David"

now "elucidate"ing more than the opening post would be difficult

but damnitman I tried in post #11

of course this was preceded by a nother regular to the field

quote:"Didn't we already do this thread? A buncha times?"

Sure wish I could recall who was lecturing on the amount of marbles produced and how small an impact that would make!

Arguing that compared to Vintage companies the numbers were miniscule. The same Vintage companies(whos marble were shot in slingshots)not saved and a small percentage survived and didnt send out rejects.

But these small "number" runs are everyone destined for market no matter the quality

Thats not interesting at all?

Beside telling me to get sucked

You really didnt find one question in ALL of them to answer!

Thats not surprising in the least

its the way every Jabo discussion goes and then the same peckerhead crys foul!

Hell Please try one more time to find any "valid" question I posed to answer

for a kindred spirit

David

Nice for sure

thanks, David

and that was for "cheap" toy marbles

in the past unsuitable was thrown in the trash. we know cause we dug um up.

do you think all marbles manufactured, especially for collectors are suitable to sell?

Are you saying marbles were never culled at Jabo?

Are you saying out of round should be sold, dimpled sold?

Are you saying Jabo removed such marbles before deliverying them to owners

Are you saying that the 20% or 30% or 60% of not MINT marbles are of no consequence?

Are you saying that if a ruputable seller culls his marbles for quality then sells the cull it has no consequence?

Are you saying the #'s of marbles to actually hit market has no consequence?

Nope ya said none of that you said Jabos is special, I know already!!!!!!

I've been short on explanations so far thats why ya missed it!

So quality of marbles is a none issue - also ?

Let me help ya see why it differs

In the past they were Jabos

In the past they were dollars maybe a pound

Now they are not Jabos

they belong to individual owners who value them at a considerable higher rate.

Where is that value?

What the real Mint ones may be worth is a question

What about half of them that make market are worth I already Know,

marble has to start round!

David

I'll repeat one time only I like the new marbles.

I will kindly thank you to not interfer with the questions I have about MY marbles.

Maybe sometimes you will have to read it twice to understand me, I'm sorry.

but I'm done with the what does it matter to you - their my marbles and I'm a marble collector and I aint happy with the ways this new venture was delivered to ME the collector.

I dont think new collectors should be forking over $40 a pop and if I can shed some light on it I shall.

If the thread show me that my questions have no consequence then I shall feel relief.

OKAY

I think these new marbles have been detramental to the cohesivness of the community and that shouldnt be the case.

I jus cant really figure out why?

too pretty?

too costly?

too jeolous?

is the message Mr. Collector if you cant figure Value or its too high dont collect.

Am I the only one that this seems odd to?

its real bothersome

its been real bothersome

since it begun

and truthfully

dont know why?

I got no problem with the cost to collect

of any other marble

altough as a group we have been known to warn

and I have the same feeling here!

Am I only going to be able to buy MInt from a few sellers in hand

wont be able to tell by picture so getting a deals out

damnitman RETAIL Market Value

on a new machined marble

not Shamrocks

a toy

not a toy

a colloctable

not a collectable no control

I know the marbles make a lot of peoples heads hurt aint ya noticed

Well Jabo made the big Time

down the road I hope

really

We are still as proud

I've spent good money.

I believe!

yet my questions piss ya off

and it aint the money, anyone "investing" in marbles is a lunatic

yet I have a huge investment in the collection

I give away as many marbles as anyone

Ann?

the disposal of Cull was actually already discussed?

I did miss that, but was gone a while!

What was ur take on the overall quality of marbles being sold to collectors?

thank you in advance, david

Quote:"Didn't we already do this thread? A buncha times"

if I did I forgot it so I'm doing it again

and marble makers and cohorts I will be as understanding as you are

if you care not to participate that is fine

but its my thread and unless closed or bounced I can handle my bussiness.

david

lol at greatmacscott

marboman if the markup was 1000% the marble would be less than a dollar!

Quote:"but in the end something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it."

true the reason also for my confusion.

Past marbles we may not know how many but we know no more. So market Value makes corrections as they come to market.

This seems more in line with the finacial collapse (alright, alright give me a sec.)

The stock market changed from value driven to perception driven. It was worth what the players(working off values touted by insiders) percieved.

Similar here The values percieved by the collectors, many insiders(to the rest of the marble world were all insiders).

and regardless of what folks will say about the crazy assed online marble community what goes on here most definatly can and does effect prices.

And when people in good standing state thats a fine marble and will bring $50 it most certainly does affect value. Is it a $50 marble cause soneone will pay it? well of course yes but as a "trained" collector is it?

Had the company (or sellers) came out with a reasonale pricing plan for a basically no value at the time marble

and then collector interest had drove the pricing I would probably not fill the same.

If quality or quanity control was in place I could have some expectations of sustainability.

But its a Capitalist Venture so as a collector the obligation is on me/us to determine value and as collectors if percieved value exceeds actual value didnt we do it.

The entrapanuer owes nothing to the hobby but as collectors if we avoid the discuusion or sit aside, because it dont concern us or friends are involved.

I jus know I still aint comfortable with developments and havent been able to wrap my hands around what it really means.

David

How much do you think the hype and controversy adds if anything?

and how do you discuss them without driving same hype?

and is Market Value on a hyped collector item detramental or of no consequence to the long term viability of something as questionable as marble collecting.

David