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VaMarbles - stunning pair! I'd sure have a hard time letting go of BOTH. Sell one -keep one. That would be my agenda. I am the type of collector that doesn't need mountains of dupes, just one fine as possible example of each type from every maker. Sort of a mini marble museum! I have a long and seemingly infinite way to go - which makes me happy and hungry for the hunt.
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There is no oxblood here and this marble is not buffed/polished IMHO. Also, the seller is a highly respected member of the marble community who has written academic tutorials on how to detect buffed/polished marbles, as well as the scientific properties of oxblood glass. If it was buffed/polished he would recognize and acknowledge it I'm sure. He is meticulous with his inspection and descriptions of his marbles up for sale. This is a rare color combo for a Popeye ( how many of you have one?) - but I am surprised at the final hammer myself.
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No - that's Vitro Whitie. The green pearlized patch glass is completely opaque and has the luminous sheen and luster of a pearl as seen in this closeup.
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Not thinking Oxblood here, but am thinking CAC American Agate.
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Looks like what is known as an Akro Blood & Bones. The base on mine glows UV but maybe they all don't?
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Eine Menge Geld...on a string!
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The above Akro box is a real rare beauty alright, but those look like Akro TEAL slags and not AQUA. Of course there's a chance the color of the photo is off. In my experience true Akro teals are much harder to find than aqua. The Akro teals will also UV react. Check your slags and see how many Akro UV Teals you find!
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Appears to be a Peltier Acme Realer. That particular green color, patch shape and base glass quality are correct for Acme Realer. One of the largest I've ever seen!
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The link you share is showing a Vacor Diablo / Red Devil. The glass quality and pattern are the tip offs away from anything Peltier.
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Have it your way! I'm just saying Paul Bunyans can vary not just in color (or lack thereof - solid green examples exist for example) but also in size up to 15/16th and 1". You can find a lot of research that confirms this by reputable collectors . If you don't think the link marble variation is a match- that's fine. I'll be interested to see what the end consensus is here. I don't have any other guess.
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Link to a thread by Dave Yabarra (West Coast Dave) and his collection of PBs, including one that looks very much like the OP. They can vary just like any marble type. Thank you for considering. https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?t=50813
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Looks like a Paul Bunyan ( packaged by Ravenswood but the production is attributed to Master).
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Earlier Vacor Mummy.
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Vacor Toxic Avenger - predates the Galaxy types.
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I agree with Alley here, and it looks like an early one from the Sistersville era IMHO. (Jabo for the smaller marble)
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Well since nobody has given an opinion on this one I will offer mine. Not a CAC, and I have been collecting and studying them for years - just to give a little cred with my opinion. I do think it's a Peltier - glass looks it. It's hard to give it the 'Windshield' moniker due to the bizarre pattern, but the size and colors are right. I've seen some splashy / twisty examples and other variables of those, but none quite as wacky as this. Just my 2 cents!
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Skipping over the dug Heaton in the 1st photo, and moving on to the 2nd and 3rd photos. Interesting on that Pelt in the 2nd photo (which might be an Acme Realer and not a PPP) how the splotchy dark crud is only showing on the orange patch and not the whole marble. I would think that indicates something awry in the molten orange only- some contaminant in the glass itself, and not something picked up on the rollers or the base glass would show this too. The 3rd marble has a lot of surface damage of which appears simply imbedded with grime or dirt, possibly from being buried. This is just what I personally see from the photos. Is it possible to pick up roller crud on only one specific colored part of a marble? That wouldn't make sense but I'm always open to explanations!
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Oddball type Peltier Ketchup and Mustard - glass quality and colors plus blowhole looks very Pelty. No oxblood that I can see. Nice Marble!
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Are these all variations of the same marble?
et cetera replied to Michael J's topic in Marble I.D.'s
They are all German Handmades but they are not all the same type. I would not call them variations of the same marble, although they are made with the same cane cut method. -
Thank you for that information Steph. This has certainly been a confusing subject. So many old discussions and opinions by those regarded as experts, makes me wonder what the truth really is. The whole Master acquisition and all deepens the mud. Makes me wonder if either late era Akro or even Master made similar marbles to those types, then Master added other color combinations and just revived the name UNIQUES. Here is one photo I saved in an Akro company box. I have seen examples and photos of purportedly early Akro Heros/ Grebes/Brown Thrashers/Uniques (or whatever you want to call them) and they do exhibit what appear to be early traits - so I will still keep wondering I guess. Thank you for your time and understanding my query.
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The explanation perhaps is the fact that in 1951 Master Glass acquired all of the remaining Akro assets. This included Akro's remaining marble stock and left over packaging. Master sold this stock in old Akro boxes as well as their own Master labeled packaging. This would explain, at least to me, why later era multi-colored Akro patches can be found in mislabeled packaging.
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I thought the Akro Heros , Brown Thrashers, Uniques and Golden Tawneys are all early Akro patches - and all are white based (or close to white) with varying types of brownish patches. Here is a large box of Hero/Uniques from Bob Block, a smaller box of all Heros and single marble Hero Brown Thrasher. I am still searching for a shot of a Golden Tawney. I don't understand what all those colorful patches are in boxes labled 'Uniques' - like Akro just back filled left over Unique Boxes with ...whatever colored patches ?? Maybe someone with deep Akro history knowledge can elaborate here.
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Winner! This is an old St. Mary's era MK Watermelon. Very nice find.