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@Parmcat You're welcome! 😃
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Thanks for including me. I agree with Chad too. These look like Yasudas, or Japanese transitionals. Just to add, crease pontils are typical of Seike, the largest marble maker in pre-war Japan.
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I would say that is a typical Seike. Both the pattern and the glass are characteristic. Sometimes his green glass has dark green bits in it. The marble in question looks to have some. Below are examples from the UK, the largest destination of Seike marbles.
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You can also find some identical marbles in the image Ric shared in this post.
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I haven't come across any Wale's variegated marbles that are single colored. They always come in more than two colors combined with white. The marbles in question look more like Matsuno's pinchers.
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Matsuno and Seike, Japanese veneered marbles
shiroaiko replied to shiroaiko's topic in General Marble & Glass Chat
Hi, Alta, thanks for your comment and questions! 😃 What I meant in my earlier post was Naoyuki Seike made Wale's variegated marbles. Sorry if I wasn't clear before. As for # 4, I'm also not sure about it when I look at the cutline. Maybe Seike? Matsuno's yellow/orange pinchers are usually 3 layers, with the yellow or orange sandwiched between clear. You can tell this when you closely look at the poles. They also come in peewee size, and I haven't come across larger ones yet... Seike's veneered marbles are two layers: a colored surface and a clear base. Which do you think the marble in question looks more like? -
Matsuno and Seike, Japanese veneered marbles
shiroaiko replied to shiroaiko's topic in General Marble & Glass Chat
@akroorka Thanks! Then I was not the only one who felt a bit lazy yesterday. 😃 @Ric Do you mean you play with the very Chinese Checker marbles as a child? If it is so, what year was it? I also have Matsuno marbles which just look like "Mt. Fuji with the sun". They are fun. @tkt Thanks, seikes are also nice-looking marbles! Although I don't have one in my collection, some appear to come with green aventurine. -
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Matsuno and Seike, Japanese veneered marbles
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I acquired an original bag of pinchers recently. It was actually a gift from @chigasaki_seaglass (Instagram) when I purchased some marbles from him. The brand was Camel/Matsuno from Osaka. This was the first time I’d seen pinchers in this packaging. They were mixed with other common types of Matsuno cats such as white cross-throughs and 4-vanes with a center opening. They are all peewees ranging from 12 to 13 mm. The poly bag has a slit which was caused by age deteriaration, so the marbles are taken out from this opening. The below is a package for export which houses slightly larger 13-14 mm Chinese Checker Marbles. Something nice is the black ones show a cool kind of purple when light comes through. Another type of veneered marble that is made in Osaka is Seike's. They commonly have tiny white bits in the white, and the cutlines are somewhat different from Camel pinchers as you can see. I also have some good pictures of Wale's variegated marbles that were kindly shared with me by @Pinx some time ago, but I haven't asked permission to post them yet🙏 (just being lazy.) -
The marble looks like a Figure 8 to me. The same color is often used for transitionals. Here are my examples, but the ones @I'llhavethat1 shared already make great references!
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This Seike's ribbon/patch marble was found by a local beachcomber a few days ago. The photo is by mimitutu424 on Instagram. A Mercari listing that sold out within minutes earlier today. Who was the lucky person? One of my SNS followers kindly let me know about it but I was too late to grab it. The seller ニコ is the same person who previously shared Rupert the Chick Picture Puzzle information that held Seike transitionals.
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I agree with @I'llhavethat1.
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I have two European marble friends who grew up with Imperial marbles and still love them today. Some Seike marbles might look like like the one found in Imperial packages, but they are not quite the same. When I showed Seike's patch/ribbons to my friends, they told me they never seen those before. As for myself, I haven't come across Seike marbles in an Imperial package. Dairiseki is close, and thank you. 😊 It is a kind of rock. Bii-dama is the common wording for marbles, so Bii-dama--On!
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@akroorka do you have an example of Imperial package that holds Japanese marbles of this type? I'm curious to see one.
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Hi @akroorka and @Parmcat! The marble in question looks like one of Seike's. Mine are local finds. The orangey red ribbons are more red in reality.
