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Five Blue Patches - One May Be Phantom Conqueror


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This thread will let you see my favorite two views for ID-ing marbles.    

Seams, cutlines and poles, and photo tips - Marble I.D.'s - Marble Connection


  2nd from the left on the bottom is a Vitro Conqueror.  Could be called a Phantom Conqueror.  The collector's name "phantom" makes those sound special but I actually prefer the ones with solid coverage.  ^_^  

The left would also be a Vitro.   I think probably a Conqueror, but it's a little different from textbook, so more views might give someone else a different opinion.

I expect Akro Moss Agate on the 2nd from the right.  Again more views could change my mind.

The one on the right is intriguing.  I want to know what that one looks like when backlit.  (Backlight, not blacklight.)   So more pix of the seams, and maybe a backlit pic, or just say what you see when you look through it toward a strong light.  If the base glass turns watery and orange then we're probably looking at a Peltier Acme Realer.

On top ... possibly another Vitro but I did consider Akro.  More pix needed. 


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1 hour ago, Steph said:


The one on the right is intriguing.  I want to know what that one looks like when backlit.  (Backlight, not blacklight.)   So more pix of the seams, and maybe a backlit pic, or just say what you see when you look through it toward a strong light.  If the base glass turns watery and orange then we're probably looking at a Peltier Acme Realer.


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Please see additional photos with and without backlighting. Looks like it could be an Acme Realer.

 

 

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Whoops. Only included backlit photos of marble on far right. The next three were for the presumptive Akro moss agate.

 

 

“2nd from the left on the bottom is a Vitro Conqueror.  Could be called a Phantom Conqueror.  The collector's name "phantom" makes those sound special but I actually prefer the ones with solid coverage”

 

Please see photos of presumptive phantom conqueror. (2nd from left on bottom, above)

Verbal impact could be different than visual.  If I casually mentioned to someone that I had a couple of phantom conquerors in my collection, I’m guessing ears would perk up more quickly than if I mentioned having a couple of conquerors.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Plutonianfire said:

Please see additional photos with and without backlighting. Looks like it could be an Acme Realer.

 

 

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Pardon my confusion here.  Is it possible that the backlit photos are the last marble on the left while the plain photos are the 3rd marble in that row?

I agree the backlit photos point squarely at Peltier Acme Realer.  But the other marble in this post looks quite Akro.  So I want to confirm we have all the marbles straight.  

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Just now, Plutonianfire said:

 

Whoops. Only included backlit photos of marble on far right. The next three were for the presumptive Akro moss agate.

 

 

“2nd from the left on the bottom is a Vitro Conqueror.  Could be called a Phantom Conqueror.  The collector's name "phantom" makes those sound special but I actually prefer the ones with solid coverage”

 

Please see photos of presumptive phantom conqueror. (2nd from left on bottom, above)

Verbal impact could be different than visual.  If I casually mentioned to someone that I had a couple of phantom conquerors in my collection, I’m guessing ears would perk up more quickly than if I mentioned having a couple of conquerors.

 

 

D66A9689-6A10-4C19-B446-B89D4C8644D6.jpeg

60096BD3-342E-4792-8D21-B547173AD8E5.jpeg

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Yes, it's the verbal component.  That's why I mentioned it.  "Phantom" makes the marbles sound more interesting.  The name game  is powerful.  More rare marbles without special names fly under the radar.  

However, I actually would have this with my Conquerors without the name phantom.  The white is mostly at the surface.  If there are phantom strands in the interior they are well hidden. 

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3 minutes ago, Plutonianfire said:


The left would also be a Vitro.   I think probably a Conqueror, but it's a little different from textbook, so more views might give someone else a different opinion.

 

Please see additional photos of presumptive Vitro Conqueror.

 

 

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Yes, I'm going with Conqueror here.   Can have different tints of the baseglass and still have Conqueror.  

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1 minute ago, Plutonianfire said:


On top ... possibly another Vitro but I did consider Akro.  More pix needed

 

Please see additional photos.

 

 

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Oh yes, for sure Vitro Conqueror.  What a difference the seam view can make.  

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9 minutes ago, Steph said:

 

 

Pardon my confusion here.  Is it possible that the backlit photos are the last marble on the left while the plain photos are the 3rd marble in that row?

I agree the backlit photos point squarely at Peltier Acme Realer.  But the other marble in this post looks quite Akro.  So I want to confirm we have all the marbles straight.  

 

10 minutes ago, Plutonianfire said:

 

Whoops. Only included backlit photos of marble on far right. The next three were for the presumptive Akro moss agate.




*whew*  

That's a relief!  

 

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