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Hi Andrea: Tried twice to respond to your e-mail and both times the communication failed. Suffice to say, my preference is to wait. Good Luck, Bob.

Hi Zaboo: It's exactly the same marble. This marble sold at Morphy's Marble Auction on November 6, 2010. If you check the dialogue earlier on this topic, you will see that someone with the moniker "wadely1212" owned this marble at some point in time and sold it to a dealer from Maryland. I purchased this marble from this dealer from Maryland at the September Brimfield Show last year. In fact, 4 of the 5 marbles I currently have listed on eBay are from the same dealer from Maryland. Brian Estepp, a good friend, was also at Brimfield promoting Morphy Auctions, told me about this dealer who had some very nice marbles. Small world sometimes. Thanks for sharing, Bob ( Metalshelf )

Hi Mike and thanks. Never knew how to do this. Have a great day, Bob.

Hi Mike: Pictures look good. Bob

Hi again: eBay item number for this marble is 171284321233. Good luck should you decide to bid. Bob

Hi: Just a note to let everyone know, in the event interested, I am listing the marble that initially started this topic on eBay later this evening....around 8:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Saving Time. Bob

Hi Istmmrbls: I don't know you at all, so, I took the comment seriously and directed at me. If you were just adding a little "not so serious" levity, then, I owe you an apology. I'll keep that in mind for the future when I post a thread

Hi Greg: I live in Canada. In addition to posting some pictures on this site, can you send me some pictures via e-mail. Also, how do I get my e-mail address to you ? Can I post it on this site ? Regards, Bob

I thank the last 2 respondents. I've had literally thousands of Benningtons and some really large ones. I do know a Bennington when I see one and this marble was not a Bennington. I can accept Gnome Punter's response because I believe it was his honest opinion and I respect that, however, Istmmrbls remarks are pointlessly rude on a personal level and certainly not professional.

Hi: Marble sold within hours of posting, so, I will assume description was correct and the price was right. Thanks, Bob.

I've posted this marble for sale on eBay earlier today. Item number is 181356482589. It's in Mint condition. Any and all anomolies are asmade and happened before the marble was glazed. I live in Canada and because I don't see this type of marble very often, I'm never sure if it is the salt glazed variety, country of manufacture, and, time frame during which it was made. I purchased it at a Sunday Antiques & Collectibles Market just outside Denver, PA, about 2 years ago. Appreciate knowing if my description is correct, and, do I have it priced right at US$199.00 Buy It Now or Make Me An Offer ( with Free shipping from Canada ) ?.

Hi Hansel: Hope you didn't think I pulled the 1820 date out of thin air. May I refer you to link #19 above provided by Jeroen. Also, I used the word "probably" when referring to the dates 1820 to 1850. If you have documented information that disputes or proves otherwise, I, for one, would be very interested in adding to my knowledge base, even if it is theoretical with a lot of assumptions. I am told you are a wealth of information on the subject of marbles. You should write a book as suggested by VTAndrea. Also, I am fully aware that there are 7 "Leighton Transitional" Marbles listed currently on eBay. All of which were listed by the same seller that we are both familiar with. 6 of these were listed about 3 days ago, and, the 7th was listed about 2 days ago. Out of curiosity, when was the last time you saw this type of marble listed on eBay with either a green or cobalt blue transparent glass base ? Have a pleasant evening, Bob.

Hi Stefan: For what it is worth, some collectors refer to this type of marble as an "End-Of-Day English Style Onionskin Submarine". I don't come across them very often, however, I have found several over the years in large Canadian Collections. They were all in the 1 1/4" to 1 3/4" diameter range and none were Mint. I sold them all to well known American Collectors, some of whom's names I have seen in this forum from time to time. The only reference where I have ever come across this type of marble has been in Stanley A. Block's Hardcover Book Titled " Antique Glass End-Of-Day Marbles " on pages 97 to 99. Some collectors also believe they may be Josephs Coats, however, I am more inclined to go along with Stanley Block. Hope this will stimulate some dialogue which is healthy for the hobby. Have a great day, Bob.

You saw correctly. I did have this marble on eBay last Fall, but, it didn't sell. Probably had it priced too high, although Morphy's Auction put a $500.00 to $800.00 pre-auction estimate on it ( also probably too high ). Marble sold at auction for $431.00 in 2010. Also, these type German marbles, that probably date to somewhere between 1820 and 1850, are seldom seen on eBay and there are lots of collectors who are uncertain as to their identity and origins, so, like yourself, they do not bid ( better safe than sorry ). That is why I posted this marble in this forum........to get the benefit of the experience and knowledge of the seasoned collectors and dealers who use it.

Hi Jeroen: Extremely interesting research and exchange of dialogue on this type glass marble. I was certainly not aware that there was this much information available on these early German hand-mades. Has significantly added to my knowledge base and I truly appreciate you sending it to me. Best regards, Bob.

Hi: This is the exact same marble that was sold by Morphy's a number of years ago. I bought it from a dealer at the Brimfield Show last September and he is from Maryland. I have dealt with him often in the past. I live in Canada ( quite cold and lots of snow right now ) and have been buying and selling marbles on eBay and at certain U.S. Marble Shows since 2004. Pictures on the Morphy site are much better than mine, in fact, you can see the asmade mark that I refer to in their 3rd picture. Undoubtedly, wadely1212 was the person who contacted me last year when I had this marble up for sale on eBay ( not sold ). He said that he purchased this marble from Morphy's and later sold it to a dealer from Maryland. Nice to see the Morphy link because I couldn't find it. Would still like to know if experienced collectors of these type marbles agree with romanoak and I, or, do you think American made "Leighton Transitionals" are a reality ? Appreciate your comments. Bob (Metalshelf)

Hi: I'll try a flash pic using a tripod and place the marble on a grey cloth background and post it in the morning.

Hi Bill: Thank you for your thoughts, truly appreciated. My thinking is along the same line as yours. Thought I would ask and get the benefit of the experience and knowledge of collectors such as yourself. The single pontil is hand-ground/faceted. In terms of condition, there is a thin cold roll line at the end opposite the pontil ( viewable in the pictures ), as well as, a rippling effect in the glass at the bottom of the marble which you would expect to see in an old marble that has not been buffed or polished. There is also one very, very small and shallow ( what I believe to be ) tear drop shaped air bubble pop. Otherwise, the marble has no other anomolies. The surface is almost perfect. Bob

Hi: Yes, I use a super macro setting for all pictures of marbles. What is the "flower" symbol that you ( I'llhavethat1) mention. I use a very high end camera, but, find it difficult to get good, clear, close-up pictures with natural daytime lighting inside the house. Any suggestions ? And, in response to Jeroen's question, the answer is yes, the pontil is hand ground.

Pictures of marble without backlighting didn't turn out very well in most instances.

Hi: Pics of same marble taken without underlighting or flash.

Hi: Pics without underlighting. Taken in ordinary daylight without flash.

Hi: Pics added. Just learning how to do this.

Hi: If anyone can help me properly identify this marble, it would be greatly appreciated. It measures 11/16" with transparent green base glass and both oxblood and creamy off-white swirling, mostly on or just below the surface.