Mr. Alley Agate III Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Does anyone have marbles in bags with this label design? I would like good resolution photos of the labels as well as the bags with marbles, to use in my book about L E Alley. This knowledge can help date Alley Agate marbles. Red mesh bags with black printing on the label for Worcester Salt give-away marbles were advertized in March 1938 in The Kingston Daily Freeman, Kingston, NY. I have photos of three of these bags containing marbles, one Vitro (with Helmet marbles) and two Alley Agate. The pattern of the rectangular boarder is unique to each company. The same pattern appears on other bags of both companies. Two Alley Agate bag names also appear on packages with the J. Pressman Co. name. The Penny King bag is poly, thus after 1950 and not packaged by Alley Agate. The marbles are Alley's. Marble King must have later used the same label design and packaged them. Alley Agate bags I have pictures of are: 30 BIG B. B. SPECIAL MARBLES (red letters & green boarder) 60 HOP CHING MARBLES (red letters & red boarder) Bag looks like the one in a 1941 Pressman ad which is a blurry drawing. 60 BIG SHOT MARBLES (red letters & green boarder) (Big Shot was used by other companies.) Name on J. Pressman product. 20 PENNY KING (all black print) The Worcester Salt bags are all black printing. I don't know which bag was used when the 1938 ad appeared. See the photos for the details of the label. The red and green label has been simulated since I don't have a photo with good resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I'll take the Penny King label first. They had the red one with black lettering like you showed with that pattern around it. They also had the cream label with red lettering and that pattern. I believe they may had had Champion Agate Co. do the printing of the labels as Champion used a similar (if not hte same) design label in the red with black and cream with red. I show one Champion mesh bag with the label also. Here's the pictures (not high resolution but readable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I have a couple Hop Ching mesh bags with that style - here are pics. None with the black on red, however. By the way, I have all of the bags I have shown pictures of - they are packed away in the 40+ copy paper boxes of bags that I have. I can try and find them if you can't get pictures from others. It will take a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 This is the only style Worcester Salt mesh bag that I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I have one Big Shot Mesh bag like you described - here are pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I did not find any Vitro bags with this style of label. Here are some pics I had saved that are not my bags - for your reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Alley Agate III Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Thanks for all the pictures. Do you know if the Hop Ching bags you have look like Alleys? Although the detail photo of the green bag is fairly good, I would like a better photo of a red Hop Ching label, but no rush, whenever it's convinent. The Vitro label uses the 4 point fan wheel that is in the corner of these labels all the way around the label. I have a mesh bag of Vitro Helmet marbles in this bag. Don't have a photo of it yet. My Penny King poly bag looks just like your red label. The red and white swirls in my bag look exactly like my Alleys - a red transparent base glass with white glass. But most of the marbles don't look that familiar. So maybe mine are also Champions, Looks like Alley and Champion used the same label design. Will post photos of these 2 bags later. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Are you interested in Photos of the pressmen Glass Marble Mosiac box and peewee Alley marbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Alley Agate III Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Addresses for Penny King: Postal Zone 10 bags are the oldest. I have not found exactly when they moved. The poly bags make it around 1950 and 1952. I found a bag with the Zone 10 Label on the web and now I saved the label photo, but I am having trouble locating it again. Billboard - May 18, 1946 - Google Books Result (Through) Billboard - Jun 26, 1948 - Page 98 - Google Books Result 1037 E. Worthington Pittsburgh, 10 Pa. Billboard - Jun 28, 1952 - Page 117 - Google Books Result (Through) Billboard - Feb 8, 1964 - Page 55 - Google Books Result 2538 Mission Street Pittsburgh 3, Pa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Alley Agate III Posted December 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Up date to previous post: Poly Bag of Penny King with Pittsburgh, 10 Pa. address Since it is poly they must have moved around 1950 to 1952. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddog Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Hi, I have a bag here with the red label orange mesh bag. The marbles that look black in this bag when back lite show purple. Hope this helps ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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