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  1.  Handmades can generally be dated by two factors. First is the colour pallet used. It can take a little study but once you have it in your head you can see it. Second is the type of pontil of witch there are 3 types. Early handmades were for lack of a better word "finished" meaning they spent the time and effort to remove as much of the pontil as they could. This was called faceting, and if you look at a good early handmade the pontil may not even be visible without magnification. Also there will be only a single pontil, the top would have been rounded prior to snipping off the cane. These were done from approx 1860-1890 as best we know. I refer to this type as "early period" Handmades. The next type of pontil are like the two bigger ones in your pic. They would have been snipped and half ass cleaned up. Most commonly by melting the pontil down. I can only see the pontil on one of yours but colours are of the same pallet so I assume the pontils should match. This was done from 1890-1920 as best we know. These I call "mid period" marbles. The last type of pontils are like your smaller one. Totally half assed, rush them out the door unfinished. Sometimes they will have the single cruddy pontil. Quite often they will have two. These I call "late period" marbles made from the 1920's until they stopped making handmades ??? There is a great difference in the colours of the later marbles compared to the early ones. Generally the colours are brighter and more vibrant than the early ones making them quite sought after despite being made much later. Nice early period marbles still seem to get the most £££'s or for you North Americans $$$'s on average.

  2. My addiction to neat round things made me buy them. But what are they? Base is made from Clay with individual strips of paper glued on. What a tedious job that would be. Large ones measure 1 1/8"  the little ones measure a tad over 5/8". Based on the nylon string bag I would have to put them in the late 60's early 70 time frame. I would not think the little ones came in the bag as they fall right through the holes. Any thoughts?

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  3. Imperial for sure. Not to uncommon to have voids in them. 

      Check out these ones I think might be Imperials. Whatever they are they are very early based on groups I have found them in. The ones you see were found a couple here and a couple there and all I have. They could also have been made by whoever made Wisplers as they share a few traits with them as well. Prettier inhand. Did a close up so you could see construction and textures. Any ideas?

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  4. Here are a few more examples of Naked Handmades. 2 on the left are Solid Cores, top right is a Divided Core (sort of). Bottom right is a totally different type that just happens to look naked. It's actually an Onionskin that is shrunken. Since Onions were never ment to have outer bands of colour, they can't really be naked. Sometime they did not fill the whole marble and are refered to as shrunken. Pretty easy to see the differance between it and the Naked Solid Cores dispite the similer looking construction.

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  5.  The best part of the old boys is that there are 4 to 5 sets of extra eyes on the field looking for marbles for me.  I have taught them quite a bit so if they see a deal they will grab it up for me and charge me no more than £20 on top of what they paid. Even if they know they know they are worth much much more. Or if they see some that they do not know about they will point me in the direction of where they are so I can take a peek. Plus I get to see and learn about some pretty awesome historical antiquities sitting on a 4'x4' coffee stained plastic fold-up table beside a coffee truck. Antiques Roadshow can suck it!

     The rest of the bag was about 90 or so deteriorating clay marble. Hence the dirty part, and what is in the pic below. I might try and have the Onion saved since it is a nice one. Bummer about the 4 blue Single Pontils. Thankfully the Ox and purple one is not  as rough. I do like the chunky Mica the best since I have never owned one with such a chunk in it before.

     

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  6.  There is 17 years of marble hunting finds in this house. There are a grand total of 0 Master Glass here. Odd huh?  I only have 3 Marble King as well. So you get a pic of Master Glasses unknown makers cousins. Wisplers or Whisplers as the late Roger Browse dubbed them years ago. Best I can do.

     

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  7. Lol. I did a search for them as well and didn't come up with too much. My I.D comes from the "Old Boys Club" as I have dubbed them.  A group of old guys my dad plunks down with to have a coffee with after each pick. Instant and unanimous I.D on it. I was even corrected on the hand painted  aspect since I thought it was a transfer. Who am I to argue with 150+ years of combined antique knowledge?  These old dudes know their stuff.

    A few I salvaged out of a dirty old bag yesterday.  

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