Steph

Brian Graham's corkscrew spinner cup has been lost twice. The thread he originally posted it is no more and the copy he let me post is no longer where he hosted it. BUT Dani has a spinner cup and other equipment in this thread: Akro Stats, Cork Counts These patents have been annotated to show where the spinner cup should fit. I didn't do it. I'm still not quite able to picture it myself even with aids like this. (click to enlarge) Check out the color coding to show which glass tank the ribbon is coming from!

Here's a thread at the Akron Marbles forum, What exactly is an Akro Agate Imperial, with an Imperials box. The contents are oxbloods. edit: Thread no longer available.

Hero box, Brown Thrashers: (click to enlarge) Unique box, Akro style: Unique box, Master style (for comparison): (source: Ron's Marbles, Toys And Things)

A definite Popeye patch, and its brother Cork! These two are from the same Popeye box. One of those pictured above. There also seems to be at least one more "error" in that box. (click to enlarge)

(click pix to enlarge) Popeye Box with the peewee: #236, the popeye box with the red and blue patch pictured further down in this thread: And now a #116 yellow popeye box: At the time of this writing, this box is being auctioned by Alan. He says the yellow is more rare than the red. His description: (We know that popeye boxes didn't always come with what we now call popeyes.) A note about popeye color combos .... Here's Block's 2002 list in order of increasing rarity: red/yellow green/yellow red/green dark blue/yellow light purple/yellow dark purple/yellow powder blue/yellow red/blue red/orange orange/green blue/green black/yellow hybrids Alan's archived Akro page has practically the same list, but doesn't mention orange/green, and he says "dark blue/red" instead of red/blue. A purple/red has been spotted but didn't make either list.

#250 box: (click to enlarge)

I think those in this particular bubble gum box would have been sold as Royals. Here's a Royals box Dani posted at LOM, size 11/16" to 23/32". (source) (click link below thumbnail to enlarge) http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/AkroRoyals_Zaboo.jpg

Kullerbubbel Gum Box: One day I might decide which views I'm okay with omitting. Until then ... (click links below thumbnails for larger images) http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/bg01.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/bg02.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/bg03.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/bg04.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/bg05.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/bg06.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/bg07.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/bg08.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/bg09.jpg

(click pix to enlarge) Here's an ad Dani showed in a fire opal discussion. It also has many Akro cartons. Note the descriptions of what each should contain, at least at that time. No. 32 carton: One from Marblealan: Another, possibly from Block: Dani's ad seem to say that there was originally a formula for how to fill these. So far I haven't found one which matches the formula. Though it's possible than these have been backfilled, it is also very easy to believe that the formula turned out to be too inconvenient. This one appears to have more corks than the other 2. So it might come closer to fitting the pattern in Dani's ad but I don't see a cardinal red or any other onyx. That might be an Imperial on the bottom right. No. A-16, I think from Block:

Most photos here from auctions. Sources provided where I know them. What kind of "original packaging" is there for Jabo? Here's one bag and its auction description:

And now for more. Sources provided where I know them. I wasn't keeping track yet when I saved some of them. (click pix to enlarge) Hy-Grade bag: Dani's: Probably from a Marblealan auction: This one appears to have corks. Possibly Al's. Miscellaneous bags. Mostly patches. Hot Shot bag: Hot Shot. Marbles described as approx. 1 inch. Al's Hot Shot bag, and what he said about it. (3 were missing, a 4th was so great he pulled it out, and he replaced the 4 with corks which looked like they belonged -- the eggyolk oxblood is the one he pulled out)

Note: Other pix can be found through the links in the original packaging thread and the general Akro thread. More links: Moss Agate Type Marbles Sweet Akro thread in main chat forum The earliest known Akro box, plus an early Akro ad At this point Akro was selling MFC's under their label. . . . (p.s., note the Akron address) (click pix to enlarge)

These bags contain Alleys from the St. Mary's location.

A lot of pix. Sources provided when I remember them. (click pix to enlarge) Note: There are many other pix in the links here: Links: Original Packaging Links: Vitro Agate Vitro Timeline And a treasure trove here: Vitro Agate , Marbles And A Little History The sequel ;-): "the" Vitro Thread ! ( Part Deux ;-) Value, Rarity & Names Oh yeah, this has some lovely pix also, from a 1938 ad someone sent me. Vienna Vitros !!! Many of these are from Marblealan auctions: 60 Vitro Agates: 30 Vitro Agates: Vitro's Victory Agates: Vitro Conquerors: Agates, 5 of them, 5/8" to 21/32": Looks like a stock box. No identifying marks. Posted by Nancy at LOM. Boxes like this are shown under the name "Tri-Lite Marbles" in an early Vitro brochure. (source) "More Or Less 100 Vitro Agates". If I understand correctly this box was filled in Vienna. It says Parkersburg because that was Vitro's mailing address even when the factory was in Vienna. (source)

Mesh Bag, 25 Champion Agates: (click to enlarge) (source) Note: There are other pix in the links here, Links: Original Packaging. [Actually there aren't any others as of the time of this writing, lol!, but there might be someday.] And here is a great Champion page: David Chamberlain's article at Marble Mental.

Some more Pelts. Note: This Marble King label is from before the Marble King company was founded. Sunshine Rippled Wheat premium: Worcester Salt: (click to enlarge) And these playing it safe, with no marble company name, just "Glass Marbles": Morton's Salt: (click to enlarge) And then some more "Glass Marbles", in a Champion Jr. bag, but still not branded Peltier: One more Morton Salt bag. Is it missing marbles, or were some bags packed lighter?

This went for $330 at auction in March. The seller described it as a "Fancy Jobber Box". (Who was the seller? Is the blue background Lloyd's trademark?) No. 5, National Onyx marbles: (that last view shows two dividers from inside the box) Chinko-Checko-Marblo box:

Way too cool to miss. A printer's block. Here's the auction description: (click to enlarge)

Some auction pix from the files. Sorry, wasn't keeping track of the sources yet when I saved most of these first ones. Note 1: the "click to enlarge" option isn't working right since the last forum upgrade. I need to edit this. Note2: There are many other pix in the links here, Compilation: Original Packaging and Links: Peltier 1992 bag: 2002 bag: This bag says, "Elect Cinamon Commisioner". (click to enlarge) What might the ages on these be? Some are Marble King? (click to enlarge) Vintage comics, in reproduction box: (click to enlarge) Another reproduction box: And a couple more reproduction boxes. I think the marbles are Marble King. And I think these would be originals: (click to enlarge)

Only Lucky Boys and Girls get Shamrock Marbles. John McCormick marbles. I think these came from Block auctions. Note: There may be other pix in links here, Compilation: Original Packaging.

A couple more threads to look at: http://marbleconnection.com/topic/21874-lawrence-glass-novelty-company-from-the-ground/ http://marbleconnection.com/topic/13019-alleys-blue-skies-and-blush-lines/ http://marbleconnection.com/topic/22071-st-marys-alleys/ Most of these pix are from auctions. I try to keep track of sellers and other sources now, but when I started this thread I didn't have all the names stored, so I may still be missing some IDs. From past Rinesmarbles auctions, these are Alleys dug at Pennsboro, placing their date of origin around 1934-1937. Misshapen ones, showing a couple of interesting color combos: I'm fairly sure these were also said to have been dug at Pennsboro: Note: There are other pix in the links here, Compilation: Original Packaging.

When I saw Ron's pix in the links in Post #5, I was confused about a couple of things! For one, I saw boxes that said Cloudy but I didn't see any Cloudies. Why? It turns out all of Ron's stock boxes said Cloudy on the end, but they had other things stamped on the top. The thing which made me do a major double take though was the box of master-made Uniques. Here's the Marble Mental thread where I asked him about those: Ron, your unique .... A couple of questions were left dangling at the end, but he took care of the main stuff in a fascinating way. The old storekeeper he got the boxes from still had the record of the original purchase. How cool is that. One of the dangling questions I'll go ahead and put to you here is, are there any books which list the Unique as a Master company name? Plus there are more pix of game marbles than the little 400 x 300 auction photos I have in Post #2 here. And I learned from one of the "game marble" pix that Master used the name Opal too. And there's a lot more, including scans from Stan Block's Marble Mania, which is packed with original packaging

Thanks guys.

What are the dates for the Albright company? Would these "American commies" have been Albrights in 1933? (click to enlarge) Update: It appears that J. E. Albright was making clays in 1933. The Thomas' Registry dates for the J. E. Albright company are 1918 to 1937. See American Marble Companies, 1905-1942, at AkronMarbles.com for additional Albright listings and more information regarding the meaning of Thomas' Registry dates.

Muslin bag full of clay marbles: (click to enlarge) That was in a Bob Block auction last month. He had this to say: