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OK Steve, this is what I said.... And, whether or not you, or anyone else thinks it's Earth shattering to the hobby that I don't study the books for information on IDing marbles, this comment is the TRUTH. I DON'T study the books... I DON'T care to... Yes, I do like to be able to ID marbles. BUT, on my terms... This was the general attitude of most marble collectors I've known over the years until.... The past 15-20?.... When machine made marbles in general were thought of as more than a joke. I don't feel that as a collector or a moderator, that it is my fiduciary duty to change how I collect for the benefit of........... Anyone!! I did NOT denounce the study of IDing marbles... Anyone who wants to do that, it's FINE with me!! In fact, I'm REALLY impressed by how much some people know!!! There was a time when I actually considered myself an "expert." I've been through the whole "Fight for Proper Identification Terms" war... I was basically told that, no matter what I've known for 40 years, it's all wrong, cuz some guy changed it in a book... I can post a "Proper ID for a Tri-Stage Swirl" and be run into the ground for being WRONG... Because all the "experts" list auctions for Tri-Stage Swirls, that I say are NOT Tri-Stage Swirls. Why?? Because some author put info in a book that was incorrect, so he could make money on the abundance of incorrect ids that he had.... Then, when these sellers get consignments for them, they HAVE to list them as Tri-Stage Swirls, because THAT'S what the book says... We have learned to build that bridge and get over it.... Does it still urk me everytime I see one?? Hell YES!!! Do I send out nasty notes to the sellers to tell them they're wrong??? NO I have a life and I just don't have time for that.... Just as I don't have time for a conversation about clearies. I don't have time for it now and I'm NOT going to have time for it on Friday night. Yes, I do consider you a friend... Share a beer? SURE... But PLEASE do not force me into your idea of "Intellectual Rape.... Uh, Intercourse" I have a headache.... Sent to Lou, who is now being chewed... Steve, what was that referring to and what does it mean?? And, where is the reference to Cat's Eyes and Sunsets?? How much more BS are you going to dream up before I have to send that PM AGAIN Don't you get it??? I'm DONE!! LET GO OF MY PANT LEG!! Lady, is this your dog??? Winnie!!!! OMG!! That is wonderful!!! Steph, thanks...

Precisely why I deleted the threads referencing that... I was angry at being slammed (privately) for my post... I was told that expressing my TRUE experiences of the past, was no way for a moderator to act... When in actuality, I was trying to sound "less expert" because in that area, I'm NOT an expert and I knew the person I was responding to was not an expert, either... They didn't need to be slammed for posting a double seam rainbow in a diaperfold thread... I tried to soften my response and get this.... After your post about banded opagues, we were cool.... My bemoaning the "new terms" was not directed at you... But, at the people who have duplicated names... It IS confusing... But then, we find that it's not really the case anyway, if they are referred to as "striped." So, Mr. Sturtz takes the opportunity to rechew the cleary cud... He's upset with me for not backing him up in the cleary thread... I'm SURE in ANY other thread possible, I will pay for that.... DEARLY. 'Sorry Steve. I'm not going to be this weeks bulldog chew toy. Not in this thread, or any other.... Ann, your right, again... You really weren't rude. You just chimed in on an off topic that is just so rediculously over-chewed and caught me at a defensive time.

I apologize to you, Ann.... I have a few folks who have been chewing my heels in this thread, for past and current issues (both on the thread and in PM's about the thread)... In each case of my responding to them, you have jumped in to insult, without knowing the reason for my actions... Again, I apologize for striking back at you. When someone is obviously upset about something (That really has NOTHING to do with you...) you might expect a trite answer for calling them out. I think this is a diaperfold... I don't have a photo showing a side view and I'm not sure where it is at the moment... But, I'm pretty sure it has only one seam...

'Hoping for a VERY special day, for a VERY special man!!! Have a blast, Mike!!! (No.... Not like blowing up the house or anything... Just in a GOOD way!!! LOL)

What a beauty!!! Damn kids.... LOL I think I have it's twin... No mica, though.....

Thanks Cat... I think we have a few here who have forgotten to take their meds.... If I thought that was your own quote, I'd almost be impressed!! Ann... First, you say definition is important, after I say it isn't always... Then, that my first mentioning it was ridiculous and I should take a break?? Excuse me?? Is there a point to all of this? Or are we just being difficult?

First off, Steve.... Please quote my mention of cat's eyes & Sunsets in reference to this topic. And then... I'm going to make dinner. If you'd like to continue this rediculous diatribe, you go right ahead... maybe Ann would like to listen... Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn and I really doubt few others do....

Looking for that, I found these!!! Diaperfold???

I'm sorry... I beg to differ with you both... I think there's a time for being specific about a definition and then there's a time for getting REAL... When someone trips over a word like "cleary," posting a book definition, rather than taking it lightly and making a bit of a joke out of it, is purely an OCD assolian move and deserves a whack along side the head... C'mon Steve, I know you have a humorous side... If you don't see a difference between discussing clearies and the clarification of handmade German banded opagues vs. machine made German banded opagues, then you need a second whack along side the head. GET OVER IT!!!

Awesome marble Ric!!! Hey... That reminds me....

Definition is always important... Just not worth fighting over. There are a LOT of differences between the cleary issue and this issue. But again, like a book definition of clearies, not worth fighting over, or bringing up.

A German Banded Opague is a handmade cane marble... Not machine made... There is also a banded transparent German handmade... (Looking much the same, on.... You guessed it.... Transparent glass!!) Names of machine made marbles have stepped all over handmade names, so if there is a German banded transparent machine made, that is the case and I'm just not "up" on the new (Very confusing) lingo...

AWESOME JO!!!! I'll watch for you!! Alan, whack me on the side of the head or something!!!! We've been at so many shows together, but I'm not sure if we've ever connected... I get pretty distracted and ditzy (more than usual) around so many people I only get to see once, or twice a year... Dave, you too!! Be sure to sign in on the list at the desk in the lobby... I'll be in on Friday, working the auction on Saturday and staying for Sunday. I don't open my room (I don't sell) so I'll be wandering... Usually, either Bert, Kris & Amy Parke, Mike & Rachel Gallant, Nadine MacDonald or Richard Clark have an idea of where I am!!! LOL I'm really looking forward to finally meeting Pat Sellers!!

Thanks for the link, Jane!!! You got my vote.... Not by asking for it, but because it was really my favorite!! I'll pass it on!

Griff taught me a cool thing about thumb pots that may be handy here, too... If the bottom hole is broken out, the value / desirability seems to be less.

Wooooo Hooooooo!!!! Have a great Birthday, Burt!!!!

I was really upset about this..... At first..... Then, I realized that it may not be so bad. I never listed insurance as optional... I always stated that insurance was included in shipping cost. If I felt an item would need insurance, I included it as handling. If not, I let it go... I felt it was MY responsibility to make sure my buyer properly got their package. There were always a few items that I'd added insurance to, that didn't go that high, so I didn't use it... Those incidents payed for the ones that were either uninsured, or DID go higher than I expected and I added it in.... Over the course of a year, I found I broke about even.... So, the bitch would be... The people who didn't GET insurance paid for those who did??? Well...... Isn't that the way insurance works??? The way I do it, EVERYONE is covered... Whether I buy insurance from the PO or not... It's not the buyers problem... Nor should it be.... They pay the shipping I feel is appropriate for the item and I guarantee they get their item. If they don't, or it's broken, I refund them AND, I refund their shipping, too (a better deal than the PO) I take the gamble out of the buyer's hands. Since this new ruling, I've lessened the amount of actual PO insurance cost and tacked 31¢ on to each item (an even 50¢ since Paypal automatically adds 19¢ delivery conformation to each online shipping label, unless it's priority) If buyers want to complain about 31¢, so be it.... But, by self-insuring, I can dramatically cut the cost of shipping insurance, give better coverage, NEVER buy PO insurance and actually MAKE money on that deal!!! I'm beginning to sense / fear that ultimately, ebay would prefer to have Free Shipping and have sellers include it in the opening bid. Of course, that means higher opening bids and ebay gets a cut of that too..... And, the final bids are not likely to change that much, yet the seller will have to pay shipping... They are SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZING us to death......

OK, I know I'm supposed to know all this diaper fold stuff.... But honestly, I only pay moderate attention to it. There's so much more "technical knowledge" out there now... For most of my years of collecting, this info was way TMI... I never cared much about it then and I only mildly care about it now... Serious ID of machine mades isn't a priority for me.... That said..... The marble above is a Pelt Rainbow, right?? ( ) Is the seam of a rainbow a diaper fold??? (I can envision a thousand pairs of rolling eyes........ LOL)

Hmmmm, I'm thinking that funky flame thing looks like an original SP...

Yikes!!! I missed it!! 'Hope it was AWESOME,Steph!!!

WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! I wanna goooooooooooooooooo!!! I hope the sunshines, but it's not too hot, everyone finds a GEM, has a GREAT time and yeah... Ditto that!!!

We have pictures!!!!! (Click to enlarge...)

Still a little time left!!!! Dance All Night!!!

I'd pay admission for the opportunity to watch Bert try to make a marble!!!! ROFLMAO (Keep the fire extinguishers VERY close at hand!!!)