When I was first collecting WV swirls in the early 2000's before a lot of iD'ing was done, I took 20 (25 count plastic boxes) full of WV swirls (500 total) - mostly random - to the Texas Show and met with Ron and Ric to get them ID'd. I think by the time we finished, over half were ID'd as Champion. Just one example but the marbles were random ones that I had bought off eBay or at the few shows I had been to back at that time.