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Carowill

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I have read older posts of these marbles here at TMC as well as watched Ravenswood 2 You Tube video and still a little bit confused.  These are not a “bone” white cullet and yet the reds are mostly vibrant.  It seems to me that these are Ravenswood marbles, but maybe “later” runs.  I know Jackson and Champion and Heaton also made R/W/B marbles, but need the experts to weigh in.2607457A-31B3-4A4C-B1C1-5F837784F527.thumb.jpeg.0fd0f8acd62b3cba02f50c0870161314.jpegBA8E6053-2826-478F-B5AB-3950290B7095.thumb.jpeg.67ae7f109c635775441fd2c5ae02bfdb.jpegF3FA1CAC-F62E-45A3-949C-45B3CC9B99D8.thumb.jpeg.2cab2b257ae6db89b2871f991beab805.jpeg

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I agree most or maybe all Ravenswood. Maybe two or three not but the blue looks right for Ravenswood on all of them.  CAC, Alley, Champion, Jackson, and Heaton all made white, red and blue swirl marbles.  

Alley

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Jackson

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Dirty cream white that glows bright with Jacksons. 

Below Champion. 

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Heaton below. Heaton also made a nice white base with red. blue and brown.

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CAC is very close to Alley. I could not find my CAC w/r/b pics. Many of the CAC white red and blue, can also have brown.

 

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As always, a grateful “thank you “ for your time and knowledge.  From the Ravenswood 2 video I expected the white to be brighter on these marbles.  Is this batch or cullet white?  Did they produce these R/W/B marbles over many years?  Thanks again!

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12 hours ago, Carowill said:

It seems to me that these are Ravenswood marbles

Nice group of Ravenswoods, Bill.

7 hours ago, wvrons said:

I agree most or maybe all Ravenswood.

Thanks for the comparative photos, Ron!

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1 minute ago, Carowill said:

As always, a grateful “thank you “ for your time and knowledge.  From the Ravenswood 2 video I expected the white to be brighter on these marbles.  Is this batch or cullet white?  Did they produce these R/W/B marbles over many years?  Thanks again!

The bright white is batch-made glass from a formula and is found on the earliest Ravenswoods. Later, because of increasing production costs and price competition they started using more cullet glass that they acquired from a variety of sources. And yes, as far as I know, they made RW&B marbles over a period of many years and the changes are noticeable from early mesh bags to later poly bags.

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Here are some Ravenswoods with the batch glass white - it's really noticeable, like CAC white. Ron always says that batch glass is white like whole milk and cullet is more like 2% or skim milk, and it's a pretty good analogy.

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And here are a few more Heatons to ponder . . .

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Older marbles are usually more collectable and more valuable, because. Older marbles are almost always better quality of base glass and colored glass. Older marbles are more true round. Older marbles were made in less numbers. Older marbles have ingredients that was outlawed later on. Older marbles cost more to make.  On and on. Then competition came along. Then cost cutting came along. Production numbers went up. Then all the quality went down.  The older machine made marbles have more value and cost more, because they are better and less of them. 

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1 ora fa, wvrons ha detto:

I marmi più vecchi sono generalmente più collezionabili e più pregiati, perché. I marmi più vecchi sono quasi sempre di migliore qualità del vetro di base e del vetro colorato. Le biglie più vecchie sono più rotonde. I marmi più vecchi sono stati realizzati in numero minore. I marmi più vecchi hanno ingredienti che sono stati messi fuori legge in seguito. I marmi più vecchi costano di più da produrre. Ancora e ancora. Poi è arrivata la concorrenza. Poi è arrivato il taglio dei costi. I numeri di produzione sono aumentati. Poi tutta la qualità è scesa. Le vecchie marmi macchina a grasso hanno più valore e costano di più, perché sono migliori e meno di esse. 

Great information Ron!
Like always......

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