A couple identified shooter size

[Melissa]

[Ric]

I think the first is a big Vitro Patch. The second may be Master, but it's giving me a little foreign vibe too.

[Melissa]

Ooops....just saw my typo just now.  These are obviously NOT identified.  😁

[William]

I think Ric has got it...the second I'll go with Master also as I have a couple of those, yours has a bit more yellow than mine...

[Melissa]

3 minutes ago, Ric said:

I think the first is a big Vitro Patch. The second may be Master, but it's giving me a little foreign vibe too.

When I first saw it I thought maybe German, but I'm no expert.  

[Melissa]

This one is definitely video worthy. Hope this helps. The inside swirls are blue and yellow. 

[Ric]

I'm with pretty firmly Master now.

[Melissa]

5 minutes ago, Ric said:

I'm with pretty firmly Master now.

Thank you!