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I would call the first one a hand made "Opaque". I have never seen one so big though--pretty cool even in this condition.

The second one is a WVS or west virginia swirl.

Lets ask @Alan about this big one to get a better idea of just what it is.

Marble--On!!

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The condition makes this more challenging than usual.  The color and saturation is strongly suggestive of a cane-cut Opaque (not sure if the shear marks remain).  Assuming I'm right, the color is harder to find than most, although the condition is obviously problematic.

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