Wolf Posted Thursday at 10:55 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:55 PM Hello. I have a question? What is it that I have here? I know it's a lemonade oxblood, but in this one, the glass is a bright yellow canary. Is this a very, very early lemonade oxblood? One that doesn't have iron mixed with the uranium glass? Thanks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Marbles Posted Friday at 12:47 AM Report Share Posted Friday at 12:47 AM 1 hour ago, Wolf said: Hello. I have a question? What is it that I have here? I know it's a lemonade oxblood, but in this one, the glass is a bright yellow canary. Is this a very, very early lemonade oxblood? One that doesn't have iron mixed with the uranium glass? Thanks. Lovely marble you have! Others can chime in, but this is an early Akro marble. I would like more info or context about “doesn't have iron mixed with the uranium glass”. Do you have a diameter on this beauty? -John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted Friday at 12:21 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 12:21 PM Did you do a chemical analysis of it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted Saturday at 01:22 AM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:22 AM On 5/29/2025 at 7:47 PM, Shamrock Marbles said: Lovely marble you have! Others can chime in, but this is an early Akro marble. I would like more info or context about “doesn't have iron mixed with the uranium glass”. Do you have a diameter on this beauty? -John Found this: Light Yellow or Canary uranium glass, often called "Vaseline glass," is primarily colored by uranium oxide, while green uranium glass may contain additional elements like iron to achieve a green color. "Yellow uranium glass, often called Vaseline glass, is generally considered a brighter glow under UV light and is highly sought after by collectors." The marble looks like it's glowing in normal light on the picture except for the UV example. A marble dealer said they are harder to find and other dealers never heard of them. .66 is the size. I think I might of seen a very very old picture of 3 of them a long time ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted Saturday at 01:33 AM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:33 AM 13 hours ago, Alan said: Did you do a chemical analysis of it? No, I don't have the marble yet. But I think I know what's going on here. This is a very early lemonade that used a purer form of uranium glass when the company started. Incredible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted Saturday at 01:47 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:47 AM Question: What’s the difference between this early one and the later one’s🔥 RAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted Saturday at 02:13 AM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:13 AM 21 minutes ago, Fire1981 said: Question: What’s the difference between this early one and the later one’s🔥 RAR The glass. The early one has a purer form of the uranium Vaseline glass without impurities which makes it look bright yellow while having a brighter "UV" green glow and it's one of the first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted Saturday at 02:20 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:20 AM 7 minutes ago, Wolf said: The glass. The early one has a purer form of the uranium Vaseline glass without impurities which makes it look bright yellow while having a brighter "UV" green glow and it's one of the first. FWIW - Akro Vaseline glass is actually transparent, not cloudy/fairly opaque as the original photo. It can become the latter of course. (Akro) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted Saturday at 02:43 AM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:43 AM 21 minutes ago, Alan said: FWIW - Akro Vaseline glass is actually transparent, not cloudy/fairly opaque as the original photo. It can become the latter of course. (Akro) Should be a fascinating marble when I receive it. I'll have to post pictures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted Saturday at 03:30 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 03:30 AM So early ones just glow more then the later ones. So to the trained Akronauts eyes they would recognize the difference in the brightness but the color combos and patterns didn’t change that much🔥 RAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted Saturday at 03:52 AM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 03:52 AM 18 minutes ago, Fire1981 said: So early ones just glow more then the later ones. So to the trained Akronauts eyes they would recognize the difference in the brightness but the color combos and patterns didn’t change that much🔥 RAR This marble looks different before the UV glow. The glass shines bright yellow with regular light and the blood flows all around making the marble stand out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Marbles Posted Saturday at 10:31 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:31 AM 8 hours ago, Wolf said: The glass. The early one has a purer form of the uranium Vaseline glass without impurities which makes it look bright yellow while having a brighter "UV" green glow and it's one of the first. Hmmm… How do you know the marble has “a purer form of the uranium Vaseline glass without impurities”. Is this something you were told? Do you have factual evidence from Akro records? Are you hopeful and just trying to convince yourself of the purchase? I am having difficulty wrapping my brain around this situation. (Finger on the “eject button”.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted Saturday at 12:34 PM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 12:34 PM 2 hours ago, Shamrock Marbles said: Hmmm… How do you know the marble has “a purer form of the uranium Vaseline glass without impurities”. Is this something you were told? Do you have factual evidence from Akro records? Are you hopeful and just trying to convince yourself of the purchase? I am having difficulty wrapping my brain around this situation. (Finger on the “eject button”.) Because I'm smart and can you prove me wrong? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
et cetera Posted Saturday at 12:51 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 12:51 PM Real Canary glass is made of a flint based formula - not a lime based formula (Vaseline glass). Due to the production time period of examples such as yours (after 1900) you can be sure none of the marble factories were using flint. The presence of iron does cause a more greenish than pure yellow - and even some early flint based Canary glass shows some tinges of green. Classifying this marble is more about the formula (lime vs.flint) not the color. Both types of glass have tone variations from yellow to green. All uranium bearing marbles are lime based and not Canary flint glass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Marbles Posted Saturday at 01:27 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:27 PM 56 minutes ago, Wolf said: Because I'm smart and can you prove me wrong? Ejection in… 3… 2… 1… 🤪 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted Saturday at 02:02 PM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:02 PM 32 minutes ago, Shamrock Marbles said: Ejection in… 3… 2… 1… 🤪 You should see what else I have. Ever heard of a "Golden Onyx Oxblood"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Marbles Posted Saturday at 02:07 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:07 PM 1 hour ago, et cetera said: Real Canary glass is made of a flint based formula - not a lime based formula (Vaseline glass). Due to the production time period of examples such as yours (after 1900) you can be sure none of the marble factories were using flint. The presence of iron does cause a more greenish than pure yellow - and even some early flint based Canary glass shows some tinges of green. Classifying this marble is more about the formula (lime vs.flint) not the color. Both types of glass have tone variations from yellow to green. All uranium bearing marbles are lime based and not Canary flint glass. What is the difference between Flint glass and Lime glass? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted Saturday at 02:09 PM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:09 PM 38 minutes ago, Shamrock Marbles said: Ejection in… 3… 2… 1… 🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted Saturday at 02:32 PM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:32 PM 1 hour ago, et cetera said: Real Canary glass is made of a flint based formula - not a lime based formula (Vaseline glass). Due to the production time period of examples such as yours (after 1900) you can be sure none of the marble factories were using flint. The presence of iron does cause a more greenish than pure yellow - and even some early flint based Canary glass shows some tinges of green. Classifying this marble is more about the formula (lime vs.flint) not the color. Both types of glass have tone variations from yellow to green. All uranium bearing marbles are lime based and not Canary flint glass. I've seen very old pictures of this type of marble a long time ago. When could have this marble been produced? Before 1920? The infancy stage of the company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
et cetera Posted Saturday at 06:02 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 06:02 PM justglass.com/documents/articles/reyne/canary.html I tried to drag and drop the above link which is an excellent synopsis on Canary glass/ flint glass/ and the evolution to lead and then soda lime glass. Looks like my effort failed. This is one website that has the facts on Canary glass/ Flint glass/ and soda lime glass as an evolution. Google it I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted Saturday at 07:22 PM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:22 PM 1 hour ago, et cetera said: justglass.com/documents/articles/reyne/canary.html I tried to drag and drop the above link which is an excellent synopsis on Canary glass/ flint glass/ and the evolution to lead and then soda lime glass. Looks like my effort failed. This is one website that has the facts on Canary glass/ Flint glass/ and soda lime glass as an evolution. Google it I guess. So what kind of glass does that lemonade marble contain to make it shimmer like that? How early could it have been made knowing the akro company started around 1915? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted Saturday at 07:31 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:31 PM 17 hours ago, Wolf said: The glass. The early one has a purer form of the uranium Vaseline glass without impurities which makes it look bright yellow while having a brighter "UV" green glow and it's one of the first. I have to ask where specifically you sourced this information from (I assume an Akro glass formula book) and the diagnostics that are used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted Saturday at 07:32 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:32 PM 6 hours ago, Wolf said: Because I'm smart and can you prove me wrong? Oh please...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted Saturday at 08:09 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:09 PM Kinda chippy in here. Just one note. Shamrock makes his OWN marbles. They are called Shamrock Marbles. 🔥 RAR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Marbles Posted Saturday at 08:30 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:30 PM 19 minutes ago, Fire1981 said: Kinda chippy in here. Just one note. Shamrock makes his OWN marbles. They are called Shamrock Marbles. 🔥 RAR I do make marbles, but I don’t make glass.😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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