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Nice marbles, I don't think I have heard of a "double capped ribbon core" or a "banded lutz mist onionskin" - could we get a few more photos of those?

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8 hours ago, Ric said:

Nice marbles, I don't think I have heard of a "double capped ribbon core" or a "banded lutz mist onionskin" - could we get a few more photos of those?

A double capped ribbon core is a ribbon core with threads to close up the gaps and makes it look like one big ribbon. An unusual one

And for the banded lutz mist onionskin, I thought the pink were bands. No such thing lol

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6 hours ago, Opae ula said:

A double capped ribbon core is a ribbon core with threads to close up the gaps and makes it look like one big ribbon. An unusual one

 

Close up which "gaps"?

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@Alan Here is a definition I found at Old Rare Marbles:

"Double Ribbon Core Swirls are constructed with two inner ribbons opposed to each other, and  are more common than a single ribbon core swirl.  Sometimes Double ribbon core swirls will be “capped” with small ribbons to close up the gap created by the two ribbons to give the illusion of a fat single ribbon, but is actually a double ribbon core swirl.  Capped Double Ribbon Core Swirls are uncommon."

I've seen the marbles but never heard the term.

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18 hours ago, Alan said:

Close up which "gaps"?

It's a little hard to see due to pocket wear, but I've traced where the yellow threads are and they covered the ribbon, leaving only a tiny open space

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15 minutes ago, Opae ula said:

It's a little hard to see due to pocket wear . . .

Just a thought . . . if you barely submerge the marble in water and then take a pic you'll be able to see it much better.

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19 minutes ago, Opae ula said:

It's a little hard to see due to pocket wear, but I've traced where the yellow threads are and they covered the ribbon, leaving only a tiny open space

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That space has always been a routine fact of construction.  There isn't anything unusual about it. The naming convention that you mentioned someone is using is quite new (I've been collecting handmades for over 3 decades and have never heard anyone use it) and seemingly an artificial and unnecessary invention.  I can only guess that person is using such inventions as a means of influencer branding.

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@Alan Can you please check my thinking here . . .

What we are talking about are marbles with a divided ribbon core. I have seen such where typical thin ribbons are about equally wide and they come together edge-to-edge in a way that gives the illusion of a solid core (but it's really hollow). I have also seen some where two of the thin opposing ribbons are wide and another set of thin opposing ribbons are narrow, and they come together in a way that gives the illusion of a single wide fat ribbon (which is also hollow). I think the latter is what they are talking about here.

Does that sound right to you?

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On 6/11/2025 at 4:59 PM, Alan said:

That space has always been a routine fact of construction.  There isn't anything unusual about it. The naming convention that you mentioned someone is using is quite new (I've been collecting handmades for over 3 decades and have never heard anyone use it) and seemingly an artificial and unnecessary invention.  I can only guess that person is using such inventions as a means of influencer branding.

On Jeff Baker's website Old Rare Marbles he talked about "capped" ribbon cores and said

 

"Sometimes Double ribbon core swirls will be “capped” with small ribbons to close up the gap created by the two ribbons to give the illusion of a fat single ribbon, but is actually a double ribbon core swirl. Capped Double Ribbon Core Swirls are uncommon.

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On 6/11/2025 at 4:50 PM, Ric said:

Just a thought . . . if you barely submerge the marble in water and then take a pic you'll be able to see it much better.

Should've done that... whoops

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On 6/9/2025 at 11:18 PM, Opae ula said:

1.25" clown onionskin

1.66" double capped ribbon core 

.66" banded lutz mist onionskin 

.78" banded razor ribbon 

.88" early onionskin 

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Great stuff!

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