Parmcat Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 Grabbed a few jars today while hunting. There were a few that look cool but I think are just Imperial imports. Plmk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 I agree with foreign. Lets ask @YasudaCollector for an opinion here as well as @shiroaiko as well. Marble--On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 (edited) Creased cut off Japanese transitional by Seike, IMO. Edited July 15 by Ric changed Yasuda to Seike. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parmcat Posted July 13 Author Report Share Posted July 13 Just now, Ric said: Creased cut off Japanese transitional by Yasuda, IMO. These are still made currently? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 I am pretty sure they are not. This marble was hand-gathered and machine rounded, it's older, for sure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiroaiko Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 All of the Japanese transitionals are pre-war made. The maker of crease pontils is most likely to be Seike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parmcat Posted July 15 Author Report Share Posted July 15 26 minutes ago, shiroaiko said: All of the Japanese transitionals are pre-war made. The maker of crease pontils is most likely to be Seike. This is cool information. Thank you so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 2 hours ago, shiroaiko said: All of the Japanese transitionals are pre-war made. The maker of crease pontils is most likely to be Seike. Do you have examples of Yasuda's you could show? I thought they made the crease pontils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiroaiko Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 @Ric Sure! Here are examples of Seike's crease pontils. Naoyuki Seike started making his first transitionals around 1924. These puzzle boxes came to me June 2024. @Joe2 Joe Valencia was the former owner of them. Seike's green often has dark green bits in it. Below is a close-up of spidery crease pontil. As for pinch pontils, I believe they were made by Yasuda. Yasuda was the third largest marble maker in my country before the war, after Seike and Isogami. His Shiba marble factory is known to be started from 1933. Ukichi Yasuda himself served as the vice-chairman of the marble makers' association. The original photo was from an eBay listing which Winnie reported back in 2015. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 @shiroaiko Thank you for that - I had gotten my pinches and creases switched around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiroaiko Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 No problem. It happens sometimes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parmcat Posted July 15 Author Report Share Posted July 15 2 hours ago, shiroaiko said: No problem. It happens sometimes. Thank you so much for this information. I really appreciate your time to explain all this. I'm still an extreme newbie to marbles. I think I falsely have assumed that when somebody says a marble is "foreign" or and "import" that it's a snub against the hobby. I now understand that is nowhere near the case and have to be more aware if these really incredible marbles. All the best! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parmcat Posted July 15 Author Report Share Posted July 15 2 hours ago, shiroaiko said: No problem. It happens sometimes. Can you provide a link to a good page to help me with research and look at pictures so I can learn more about these marbles. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 Here is a good place to start, if you haven't already seen it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parmcat Posted July 15 Author Report Share Posted July 15 31 minutes ago, Ric said: Here is a good place to start, if you haven't already seen it. Awesome! Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marblemanvintagemarbles Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 Very nice super old! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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