Fire1981 Posted Thursday at 11:22 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:22 PM It’s my understanding that ribbon construction can determine is a handmade is German or English. Here are my examples and am wondering if I understand this is correctly. Any ideas🔥 RAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted Thursday at 11:23 PM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:23 PM German examples🔥 RAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted Thursday at 11:24 PM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:24 PM English🔥 RAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted yesterday at 05:39 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:39 AM German and English hand mades were both German made except at different times. The older Germans had mostly faceted or melted pontils and were bigger while the newer hand made Germans were smaller and had brighter colors with unfinished pontils increasing production for the evolving English game board market of the late Victorian era. Later date German handmades were made mostly for the English gameboard market, thus the smaller & smaller size. 99% of the older Germans I have are monsters with one faceted pontil and a melted pigtail on the other end. The brighter and smaller ones I have especially the Joseph coats have brilliant colors are small and almost all of them have two unfinished pontils, including the latts and divided cores, greatly increasing the production rate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted yesterday at 06:02 AM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:02 AM OK. That answers that question. Thanks Chad G. It’s an easy read. I like that🔥 RAR👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YasudaCollector Posted yesterday at 07:28 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:28 AM So would later Germans be something like early 1900s, and earlier Germans be in the range of 1860 ish to 1900 ish? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted yesterday at 02:43 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:43 PM 6 hours ago, YasudaCollector said: So would later Germans be something like early 1900s, and earlier Germans be in the range of 1860 ish to 1900 ish? The dates I go by I look at the pontils on the marble to date it. one faceted and melted, or both faceted pontils (Early) 1850's to around 1860- 1870. One ground and or two unfinished pontils (Later)1870 -1880 to around or just after 1900. I wasn't there so I can give no exact date. This is just the general way I date my German Handmades. There are exceptions of course as in anything. The earliest type (single hand gathers, sulphides were also made sometime around 1850). Google will give you a lot of this information, especially about the early hand gathered types (sulphides) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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