WHISPLERS, as Master can sometimes deceive

[Roberto]

Whisplers, yes, relative of Master.

I wanted to open this thread to try to curb a bit this (which I still notice) confusion that can arise with Masters

Below I will show a description of these, opaque and transparent. I don't have many, but enough to give the idea.

These marbles generally range in size from 9/16 to 1 inch, maybe more

My simplest and quickest advice, and in my opinion the most effective for identifying these whispering marbles, is that many, if not most, have or can have a very clear glass but very, very bubbly, which Masters generally do not have.

Then, over time, with a bit of patience, you will gain experience and you will be able to notice some differences with Master marbles even in the seams.

To begin with, I will show a text related to these, both opaque and transparent, followed by some marbles

 

"A Vintage Whispler marble, sometimes known as a European Fat-Core marble. This opaque type is harder to find than the transparent variety. Detailed blending and strata combine with sophisticated opaque colours for plenty of interest and impact. Whisplers are a mysterious vintage marble class, distributed in England during the 1950's and 60's by British firms including Irene Manufacturing Company, Chad Valley Games, H.P. Gibson and Co. and T.S.L. Products, England. They are readily recognised as a mainstay of many nostalgic and happy marble memories. Appreciated for an amorphous, flowing character, they are often galactic in style with intricate organic striations. The opaque varieties have an intense character, with detailed blending of beautiful tertiaries in a creamy, earthy and often moody palette - unlike the more common transparent base Whisplers which range from clear and intense to cloudy, misty and filamentous; with wispy vanes, and delightful floating clouds of tiny bubbles. They can sometimes resemble the American 'Master' marbles due to a similar manufacturing process."

 

 

 

[Roberto]

More..

[Roberto]

[Roberto]

These are 1 inch

 

[akroorka]

6 hours ago, Roberto said:

Whisplers, yes, relative of Master.

Great stuff Roberto!

Thanks for this and--

Marble--On!!

[stephenb]

Well done Roberto! 

[Roberto]

Thanks to both of you! I really appreciate it

Maybe in the future Stephen will decide to make a video about these too? 😜

[Roberto]

Here's an unusual one..

[Alta]

Hi Roberto, what is the defining characteristics to differentiate Master from Whispler? Is it purely the bubbly base glass or is there more things like color palate or something we can look at. A few you posted here I would have definitely sorted with my Masters, and as I know Euro Whisplers did make it's way here to Canada I would love to have some ways to try to differentiate between the two. 

As an example these two came in a lot that had a lot more foreign marbles than US marbles. Is there any way to know whether they could be Whisplers rather than Masters (where I currently have them sorted) 

[Roberto]

2 hours ago, Alta said:

Ciao Roberto, quali sono le caratteristiche distintive che differenziano il Master dal Whispler? È semplicemente il bicchiere di base spumeggiante o ci sono altri aspetti come la palette di colori o qualcosa che possiamo considerare? Alcuni di quelli che hai pubblicato qui li avrei sicuramente abbinati al mio Masters, e poiché so che l'Euro Whispler è arrivato fino in Canada, mi piacerebbe avere qualche suggerimento per provare a differenziarli. 

Ad esempio, queste due sono arrivate in un lotto che conteneva molte più biglie straniere che americane. C'è un modo per sapere se potrebbero essere Whisplers piuttosto che Masters (dove le ho attualmente ordinate)? 

 

Hi,Alta 

Wow, I'd love to see these two in hand. In my opinion these are two Masters

The second one is nice, type a helmet, I would like to have it😊 I will show some pictures of the second kind, Master

Whisplers, considered relatives of Master, precisely because of their similar characteristics.

Sometimes it can be difficult to tell them apart, precisely because of their similarity.

However, in my opinion, the joints of Master are more pronounced, deep, and clear, as well as having glass that is much less bubbly and sparkling, in summary.

As I mentioned, whisplers in general show (as you can see in the images above) an exaggerated amount of bubbles that the Masters do not have.

Then, there might be the exception where in some cases they could be indistinguishable from each other, especially when viewed on a monitor, but generally they can be distinguished.

I repeat, the key point for the distinction is the bubbles, in whisplers, although it is not an absolute rule.

As for the color palette, I wouldn’t pay much attention to this, as both types of marbles have the same earthy colors.

Now, I am not an expert on the matter, I just wanted to give my personal impression on it to be helpful, and I hope it is appreciated.

Thanks again to everyone for your attention!

 

[Roberto]

Here's the type of Master I was mentioning, helmet-style (as I consider it)

[Alta]

34 minutes ago, Roberto said:

 

Hi,Alta 

Wow, I'd love to see these two in hand. In my opinion these are two Masters

The second one is nice, type a helmet, I would like to have it😊 I will show some pictures of the second kind, Master

Whisplers, considered relatives of Master, precisely because of their similar characteristics.

Sometimes it can be difficult to tell them apart, precisely because of their similarity.

However, in my opinion, the joints of Master are more pronounced, deep, and clear, as well as having glass that is much less bubbly and sparkling, in summary.

As I mentioned, whisplers in general show (as you can see in the images above) an exaggerated amount of bubbles that the Masters do not have.

Then, there might be the exception where in some cases they could be indistinguishable from each other, especially when viewed on a monitor, but generally they can be distinguished.

I repeat, the key point for the distinction is the bubbles, in whisplers, although it is not an absolute rule.

As for the color palette, I wouldn’t pay much attention to this, as both types of marbles have the same earthy colors.

Now, I am not an expert on the matter, I just wanted to give my personal impression on it to be helpful, and I hope it is appreciated.

Thanks again to everyone for your attention!

 

Thanks for the very detailed explanation. I appreciate it greatly. 

[Roberto]

You're welcome

[stephenb]

12 hours ago, Roberto said:

Thanks to both of you! I really appreciate it

Maybe in the future Stephen will decide to make a video about these too? 😜

Roberto I’ve been meaning to get to them, at some point I certainly will. You’ve got some nice ones!