Steph

auctions could be a dangerous habit to get into anyway. ;-)

feel better soon. :-)

hello. :-)

Well, with red bases, I don't suppose they have a name, but that sounds less common than with the green base. That would be cool to see.

Not sure if I'm remembering this right on a sleepy saturday morning, but isn't a red base on the hard-to-find list?

Hmmm, I guess you might call some of these bloodie-like .... Kokomo Examples. However, if it's hard to distinguish then tie goes to pelt. The man I trust most to identify Kokos is not inclined to call a loose marble a koko even when he holds it in hand. I can't answer about kokos from personal knowledge. I just have to go with his info and with the odds which are soooooooooooooo low for koko. Peltier made Bloodies, or Bloodie-like marbles for something like 25 years. Red was long known to be a winner with the boys. They made rainbos on multiple machines. Kokomo made rainbo-like marbles for a few years, on a single machine, and so the bloodie-like mibs would have been a small portion of already a small number of marbles. And most never left the area, it is thought.

But if it weren't for those odds people wouldn't be so fascinated by them, huh? :-)

I'd forgotten about the euroflames! Sweet mibs everyone !

That's great. And part of a LONG tradition!

I'm mildly worried about anyone admitting in writing that they do it. It's probably against some sort of law. But until someone finds the law and points it out to you, it's wonderful! lol And doesn't Joseph look grown up.

p.s. gratuitous historical trivia: a lot of Vitros were secretly scattered in some of the poorest neighborhoods of New York during the summer of 1940. Henry Fisher donated them to a newspaper columnist who had written about his mother not being able to afford to keep him and his brothers supplied with mibs when they were boys.

*gasp*

Nice!

this one is flame-ish. I think she's a Champ. (sliding her in before she's fully eclipsed ;-)

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I thought maybe I'd found a snippet of the VFW marble tourney film buried in different VFW movie, but no, the dates are wrong. Still this seems a good place to put other obscure films. Just a tiny bit of marble play here. You might like 'em anyway.

From 1955:

At minute 13 of part one of "The Magic Bond" is a little bit of tournament action. Part 1. Part 2.

From 1936:

A few boys play marbles at the beginning of this short movie about the soap box derby, featuring the national tournament at Akron, O. The All-American Soap Box Derby.

New to me too. Love it.

Cool.

Cool to see a nonglowing one with the ox ....

... coz I think that without the ox some folks break them down by glowing or not, sometimes giving 'em different names if they glow versus if they don't, right? But with the ox, I don't think I've ever heard anyone make a distinction. Have you?

It's as if the ox validates it and the mib has nothing else to prove.

Without the ox a nonglowing one might feel inadequate. With the ox no problem.

hoping it rhymes with "Squarnelian Knoxmud"

:icon_lmao: :rol:

By the way, does it glow? not that it's required ........

Do you ever look at a picture of a marble player -- or any child :-) -- from years back and wonder what became of them?

Here is Emma Miller, the national Marble Queen of 1949. In her Amish bonnet she was the big draw of the tournament that year. I read that she was a powerful shooter.

From Life Magazine

(oh boy, another photo source to explore)

Look at this one too! Love it!

I Love'em! Thanx Steph and Slowguy (Nice to meet ya). Who made that one Slowguy?

I've pondered these colors and I'd guess they're not quite green/not quite blue colors. They're somewhere close but not quite, yanno? And oddly, when you try to get a good picture, they show up closer to one of the two colors, green or blue.

It is odd ... yet somehow unsurprising.

I don't know what the science is, but isn't Cyan the color they call non-repro blue? Well, whatever the deal is, cyan is one of my happiest of happy colors and I totally can't photograph it.

Did ya win that pretty marble Steph? If you did, you just gotta tell me how gorgeous it really is!

:-) Felicia

This mib is two of my happiest colors.

Some people hate links to live auctions because they planned to bid and didn't want competition. I hate links to live auctions because I'd rather not see auctions until they're over and the tempation has passed. :icon_lmao:

But I did hope to pick up a tankwash mib someday ....

Does this qualify?

When I think "teal", I think of Cairo Novelty. Here's a favorite clip from a favorite pic from marblealan's old site:

Here's my teal-ribboned mib I hope one day to photograph properly.

Bump, last day of voting.

Wow, we need more of this. that's awesome.

imagine ... kids not even knowing there are games to play with marbles.

Definitely a nice way to look at it.

Do you know what the end of that box said? The only tri-onyx label I recall seeing is the one pictured in the Hardy book. Before the popeye boxes came out, I suspect the usual way retailers were shown tri-onyx akros was in the Specials compartment of the sample cases. Popeyes seem to show up there a lot, as do ades, and various other types.

On my parallel track, the packaging I see Sparklers in tonight: the Sparklers compartments in sample cases, a Sparkler Agates stock box (Hardy book), in one column of an Akro Special box (Hardy book), and two different Spiral Agates stock boxes (one from the Hardy collection and one Buddy posted - the Hardy box has half sparklers and half spirals).

Don't know if this is true but it's a cute story.

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I'm totally not psyched up for reading patents. I made it through one page of #1927650 and then left my body. I heard someone screaming and then I found myself in a corner on the far side of the house.

uh ... well not that bad but ....

I think I need a chart to have a hope of keeping track of the dates. Translucent makes me think of acme realers, which also have feathering. But I am aware that translucent sometimes meant different things to people in the first half of the 1900's than it does to us. You could be correct about it referring to slag glass.

I'm with you about 1928 seeming earlier than is typically associated with patches. It seems a little late for slags though. I"d have thought that it was even late for gobfed slags but I don't know.

Is it your position that 1928 would be about when Peltier moved from hand-gathered slags to gob fed ones? Or something more subtle and/or more technical than that.

There is one more thing I'm keeping in mind, namely that some patents have been awarded for machines which never were used.

Happy Boday Birth,

I mean Happy Birthday Bo.

Have a great one!!!!!!!!!!!!

hmmmm ... no more dog people? No more hamsters? No parakeets? Not a pet grizzly in the bunch?

C'mon, we're not that scary ... just because we forgot to file our fangs, don't let that worry you ......

scrumptious! I'll take it!

Thanks Al. So there was some variety of box styles and colors. With the variety it makes me wonder why they seem so relatively rare now? Was it because kids who bought them were serious players and got right to using them? Or coz they're old? Or coz in spite of the variety Akro didn't make that many? The filigree looks sort of like the trim on Akro flinties or moonies boxes, and the cartoon boys look like the same style as in the Big Time Marbles comics/ads in Boys Life in 1931. Hmmm, Ringer boxes really are old, aren't they. LOL But seriously, those are some early sets.

Gosh, "marble set" is so very generic. And 'ringer' would have been pretty generic too back then. This probably isn't going to be an easy box to find in ads.

I see a December 1933 ad for a "marble set". Says it contains "highly colored marbles" and a chamois bag. "Highly colored" sounds like a good description for popeyes. Of course I know there were other options for "highly colored" marbles in 1933. Just thinking aloud!

Sunbursts, sparklers .... sparklers? ... oh no, I just blew a fuse. It suddenly dawns on me that I don't think I've ever seen what sort of packaging sparklers would have been sold in. Only a salesman case and a stock box.

p.s. The Picture Marble Company? Cooool. Totally new name for me.

And the Fleischer Art Service would be Max Fleischer's company, I suppose.

Any thoughts on whether the picture marbles "jewelry box" was sold to the public? Or distributed only/mainly as a sample box to business owners?

Morris Rosenthal patent(s)

Of course, Berry Pink's compartment bag patent belonged to the Rosenthal company. And then Morris Rosenthal is the inventor on this one. This is a cellophane package.

Patent number: 1983499

Filing date: Jan 20, 1934

Issue date: Dec 1934

Inventor: Rosenthal

Marble Package

Rosenthal trivia: As a jobber, Morris Rosenthal apparently had his foot solidly in the door of the marble business of the USA. For at least a few years. Not sure how long he stayed at the door or whether he really committed to walking over the threshhold. His brother Benjamin was HUGE in the playing card business though. Benjamin was even more of a king in cards than Pink was with marbles.

LOL ... yes, that's totally off topic. I just happen to find the Rosenthals intriguing. I can't help suspecting that their success was a challenge to Berry.