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  1. Love the Berry Pink revival. LOL

    Hard to know what to say after the info you've shared. Wonder why the guy ended the auction early. Why not wait that extra day to see if anyone would beat the $1500?

    One of my favorite parts of the auction is pretty trivial -- the part of the letter which says "3 line cleary, and a root beer cleary".

    I especially like that "3 line cleary" part. I hope it really is the marble shown. It'd be cool to have a kid's name for it.

    3LineCleary_Root_BeerCleary.jpg

  2. Watertown is upstate NY. About 300 miles from NYC. Still "in the neighborhood" for a salesman I guess.

    mmm hmmm, a drawstring bag sounds good.

    The item # is still a puzzle if it is indeed from the MK catalog. The 75 would be for the number of marbles. The 5000 would still likely put it after 1962 though.

    Would the drawstring poly bag have said Berry Pink Industries in the late 60's, early 70's? Well, it was at least in the company address in the paperwork. And maybe "Berry Pink marbles" was the traditional name for that bag in that region dating back to the days when Pink was a celebrity. "Berry Pinks" is more fun to say than Tournament Assortment.

    My wild guess was that it might have been a commemorative promotional item with his name on it. Maybe only in the NY area since that's where he was most famous. (lol @ me)

    (Al, does that bag have a dark stain on the back?)

  3. Anyone know what type of marble was for sale here?

    75 Berry Pink Marbles for 49 cents.

    The date was May 19, 1973.

    1973_BerryPinkMarbles.jpg

    The No. 5075 in the ad fits what appears to fit the trend of the Marble King catalog sheets in AMMM. The highest item no. showing on the 1954 sheet is No. 1008 for a cool Big Value box -- looks just like the Peltier version except the company name is given as Berry Pink Industries.

    And the lowest number showing on the 1979 catalog sheets is 6106 H. (H for the incredible Hulk header)

    So, 5075 is a reasonable catalog number for earlier in the 70's.

    But if a 1970's "Berry Pink Marble" is listed in AMMM, I missed it. I can't even see that they noted Mr. Pink's passing. He died in 1962. The 1958 St. Mary's fire is discussed on p. 94 and then on p. 95 it says:

    Marble King enjoyed fairly good times in Paden City during the 1960s. It was time when the smaller companies that had been competition were out of business and Marble King cat's eye marbles with considerable success. A significant development came in 1963 when Roger Howdyshell, Duncan V. (Don) Peltier, and Cornell Medley bought Marble King, Inc. and Berry Pink Industries.

    In 1965, Berry Pink Industries was dissolved and became Berry Pink Industries Division of Marble King, Incorporated. For a time in 1967, marbles produced by Marble King were sold by Peltier Glass Company.

    On July 1, 1983, ....

    Also, 75 doesn't seem to appear as one of the marble counts found in Marble King packaging.

    Maybe it's not Marble King? But who else would be selling marbles with that name in 1973?

  4. I thnk I'm done anyway. LOL

    I knew better than that. :D Here's a bit more, from an Oswego, NY paper. Some nice details about Berry Pink and the tournament in general. The final prize appears to have been $250.

    Click the links below the headlines for more of the articles. Might need to double click for full size. The 2nd one ends early, but I think most of it is there.

    1940_April_11_Oswego_NY_headline.jpg . . . . .. 1940_June_14_Oswego_NY_headline.jpg

    http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/History/1940_April_11_Oswego_NY.jpg

    http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/History/1940_June_14_Oswego_NY.jpg

    Papers archived here: http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

  5. Cool bag ... not exactly what it seems to be, but still cool:

    JeffHale_MCC_2005.jpg

    Jeff Hale's explanation:

    Modern 1980- early 1990's

    These more modern marbles were stuffed in bags with old labels. Some of these bags have some excellently colored champs in them. Without knowing the colors of these more recent marbles in this 'stuffed' bag the label dearly tells the story; "60 marbles? You'll get anywhere from 25-30 in these stuffed bags. Don't let the 'stuffed bag' thing scare you because if you are lucky you'll get some pretty nice tri-colored marbles in these which are otherwise difficult to find.

    Source: Marble Collector's Club

  6. The New York Times gives a figure of "more than 150" instead of 300 for the number of competitors at the national tournament in New York in 1940. But maybe some were unable to make the trip? One other discrepancy is that whoever gave the June 24-20 dates in the Tacoma Times description seems to have confused this tourney with the Scripps Howard tourney in New Jersey.

    The Berry Pink tourney was a week earlier, at the World's Fair.

    The winner Douglas Opperman of Pittsburgh received maybe $200 or $300 (accounts vary). This allowed the family to purchase their first car.

    He donated his crown to the Western Pennsylvania Sports Museum at the Heinz History Center.

    Which doesn't tell Don when his trophy was awarded or how many there were. I thnk I'm done anyway. LOL

    MarbleKing_June1940_th.jpg

    (From NYT -- click to enlarge)

    Click here for bigger image: http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/History/MarbleKing_June1940_40percent.jpg

  7. p.s. How many "national" marble tournaments were there in 1940?

    At least two, it appears. So this one would have been different from the Scripps Howard tournament series which started in 1923? yes, okay.

    So, this contest is the one which ran from 1937 to 1952? (much later edit: I question whether Berry Pink had "Marble King" tournaments for all those years. Where did we learn about those dates?)

    Wonder what the top prize was.

  8. One possibility is that the trophies were re-used. The winners may have had to return them for presentation to the next year's winner. ?

    Perhaps Don now has one of a very limited production from the 30's, which may have been recycled until it was replaced by the taller style in the 1940 photos.

    Perhaps the newspapers, or whoever sponsored the events, eventually discarded them. -- not having the same emotional attachment as the winners would have.

    ??

  9. Thanks Lloyd.

    So it does look like Don's might be a city level trophy. (doesn't it?)

    At least for a biggish city.

    300 cities in 48 states. I guess the little towns would have sent their reps to the nearest metropolitan area to compete? Or were the more rural areas left out?

    Great question Galen!

    For that year and any other?!

  10. And the winner is ... Jimmy Collins!

    June1940_Winners_TacomaPublicLibrar.jpg

    Date: 06-04-1940

    Description: Here are the four lads who were crowned district marbles champions at the end of the city wide competition held at the Central playfield, near what is now So. 11th and Yakima, on June 4, 1940. Sharp shooting Jimmy Collins (third from left), a 12-year-old pupil at Sacred Heart parochial school, won the trophy for city champ and the title of Marble King. The other district champs were (l to r): Vernon Keister, of Gault, junior high champion; Dale Henderson, of Sherman school, North End champion; and Dave Strandley, far right, South End champion. Collins was eligible to compete with the Marble Kings of 300 other American cities at the National matches June 17-22th in New York City. (T.Times 6/5/1940 p.1 &10)

  11. Not identical but looks related. Maybe they had different designs in different years.

    May1940_ImageA_TacomaPublicLibrary.jpg

    In May of 1940, Robert H. Hager (left), physical education supervisor for Tacoma Public Schools, and Al Hodges, playground and recreation supervisor for Metropolitan Parks, were photographed demonstrating the correct "knuckle down" hand position required in the upcoming Marble King Tournament, no "fudging" was allowed. All of Tacoma's 43 schools participated in the preliminary contests that began on May 20th. The finalists faced off on June 4th on the Central School playground to determine Tacoma's "Marble King". The overall champion won both a trophy and a trip to New York City to represent Tacoma in the national competition held June 24-29th. Included in this photograph with the local organizers of the tournament are the various medals, and emblems that were awarded to the top competitors from each school and the top winners trophy. (T. Times 5/16/1940, pg.7; 5/8/1940, pg. 1)

    May1940_ImageB_TacomaPublicLibrary.jpg

    Robert H. Hager, physical education supervisor for Tacoma Public Schools, and Al Hodges, playground supervisor Metropolitan Parks, pose with the Marble King tournament trophy, medals, school champion emblems and box of marbles. The Tacoma marble tournament, to determine the Marble King, would begin May 20, 1940 with school preliminary rounds. The overall winner would go to the national grand finals in New York City June 24-29. Any Tacoma school boy, or girl, under 14 was eligible. The championship game between the winners at Tacoma's 43 schools would be held on June 4 on Central School's playground. The "Roto" version of the game would be played, starting with 15 marbles in a 10 foot diameter ring. All players had to "knuckle down" and no "fudging" was allowed. The City champion will receive the trophy and the gold medal. The trophy was put up by "Berry Pink," national director of the Marble King competition. (T. Times 5/8/1940, pg. 1; 5/16/40, pg. 7)

    Looks like a box of Rainbos, doesn't it.

    Source: Tacoma Public Library Image Archives

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