Steph

What do you have by way of non-Jabo buttcracks? On marbles. ;-)

Here are a couple of Alley buttcracks.

my tater bug:

a fluorescent pistachio:

So, it sounds like the $99.99 for this one was not a steal and not too high.

I usually sort my ebay searches by highest price first in an attempt to see what the most interesting listings were. I stop looking when I get down to about $50 final sale price. Which means that in addition to missing all the bargains Al gets on original packaging, I also only see the golden rule marbles people spend a lot for. Like the person who bought 4 individual ones without cases for $61.

But I did a search just now specifically for Golden Rule marbles and found that the price for individuals with cases is in the neighborhood of $9 to $11 after shipping.

Now I know. Thanks for the feedback everyone.

This had a buy-it-now on it. My first impression was that it was a bargain. I wonder how long it lasted before it was sold. Any ideas on a good price for it?

Box of 12 Golden Rule marbles, each in their own box.

They are a little hard to come by even individually, right? They're not still being made?

Another "not even a draft yet" post, just an idea. Some marbles are too common or too plain to show up in most books, but people still like to learn about them.

Essentially Single Color marbles:

Dark Blue Swirl

Game Marbles??

Steelies:

What Can You Tell Me About A Steel Marble

Steelies

Someone asked me what a Buttermilk looked like.

First of all it is a tri-lite. And here's the description from Chuck B.'s article in the WVMCC newsletter, Issue #15, June 2006.

Buttermilks have a red band on one side, a parallel red/blue band on the other side and a translucent buttermilk yellow base, sometimes with white. Buttermilks vary considerably in color and design. The blue sometimes darkens toward indigo, especially on the shooters. The smaller buttermilks tend to have ribbons and many of the shooters swirl significantly.

Here are some photos which have been shown at various times.

A classic design posted by Duffy:

Two posted by Mary M. Guy and Randy both said the black ribbons were okay.

A shooter sold by Alan:

Dani's:

Carole's:

Spotless? not quite! lol

I know simple patches like this aren't worth much ... and that makes them all the more annoying. Coz they're too trivial to argue about but I don't want to i.d. them wrong for someone else.

Anyway, this thread is for mibs which might be taken for Vitro All Reds if you didn't know better. This isn't a response to the akro versus vitro discussion in the i.d. forum. I've been flagging "data" for this topic for while now.

You can see how some Akros might be taken for All-Reds. Bob, wouldn't you think some of these were Pepsi mibs?

(from post #7 here)

And then there are some MKs which seem to be trying to confuse. Auction pix. Sorry, they're hard to see. If you have better and wouldn't mind sharing ...

Here's one of Al's all-red bags. After seeing the some of the patch shapes on the MKs, I might have tried to get too clever and guessed MK for some of these.

I bet there are modern ones which look like all-reds too.

Anyone else have tricky examples? or hints?

Like ... does chunky aventurine likely mean MK or can Vitros have chunky aventurine also?

Here is an example of the bag Berry Pink patented while he was jobbering Peltiers for Rosenthal. The goals of the double compartment design were rigidity and visibility, at relatively little expense. Earlier mesh bags were floppy, which meant that marbles would slosh around and end up in a bunch at the bottom. Boxes were expensive and you couldn't easily see the marbles inside. This was his solution.

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The contents are incredible. The label is incredible. It's altogether amazing.

Alan's description:

This lot, A MARBLE CONSIGNMENT, consists of a Peltier Glass Co. "Net Mesh Bag" (ca. 1930s) which has an approximate height of 6-1/4". The header, which reads "Champion Glass Marbles" on both sides, has some minor wear, while the red cloth mesh is excellently preserved. There is a tag labeled "Shapleigh's Diamond Edge" tied to it, suggesting that the bag was a giveaway with the purchase of razors. It is stitched down the middle to divide the bag into two halves, which is quite odd; what's even odder is that rather than containing later 1940s marbles (i.e. "Rainbos") it has 30 earlier examples (15 per side), including "Peerless Patches," "Multicolors," and "Slags," as well as a few early "Rainbos" and solid-colored game marbles and a shooter-sized "Clearie." I personally have not seen this item before.

moonie.

Here's my Jabo Madyia with lutz.

I have a peewee moonie!

I put it aside in such as "safe" place that I forgot about it but I found it again yesterday.

15/32", with fish eyes and fire inside.

yes they're a dug marble, and most are fluorescent.

p.s., yes, Darla's is slightly fluorescent. If you look at it next to a popeye you might miss the glow.

Darla, as you may have already seen by now, these are examples of Leopards:

Posted by Ronnie here, Can Anyone Id This Akro Agate Marble. His were dug.

In that thread, Dani explains that was actually her husband who named them ... 20 years ago.

In post #3 there Derrick linked to an old thread of Lizzy's where she had posted another dug example. That thread is gone, but here are the thumbnails she posted. Her base looked pretty light in those pix. Yours is a medium to light greenish. Bottle green might be a good term for it.

Darla has a Leopard and some other "interesting" akros. Like a totally whacked out Indian Blanket.

Is the Leopard a positive sign that she got her hands on at least one dug marble?

Thanks Al.

I forgot about that bag. Dave (orbboy) posted one with sunbursts.

That was this thread.

http://marbleconnection.invisionzone.com/i...?showtopic=9158

Since Brian's size info was given in one post, and updated in another, here's the summary. His red examples range from .574 inch to .98 inch.

But if you allow non-red examples, he gets down to .555 inch.

Yes, that's the part which sparkles a little. :-)

The Jokers stand out in pix, that's for sure.

But the Tributes get better and better in hand as you focus in on them. The colors are phenomenal. Some wonderful striping action.

I have one where a peach-tinged yellow blends to orange, then the stripes start: clear, gold, purpley brown, maroon, darker purple, gold, greenish gold, olive, teal, a weird ox blend, more teal, almost black ox, teal, clear, and back to the blushing yellow.

dude!

did I mention stray bits of glitter?

(Edna, that's one of the ones I still haven't been able to match to one of the style names.)

the older akro flinties the whole marble glowed with no eyes.

Thanks for the confirmation. I "knew" that but was still insecure in saying so.

Pat, here's a screenshot so that you can see the right code with the brackets still there. As Lou said it's hard to explain in writing, because the brackets disappear when they're typed in the message.

The top line in the image is what your signature looks like right now. The next line shows where your name should be ... between the size tags. Should be just a matter of deleting your name from the end and retyping it between the tags. (Spaces are not necessary, but shouldn't affect it either. I included them for visibility.)

Check the marbles on the right of Brian's pic from your flinties thread:

The red and purple have at least one eye apiece.

It's possible that they do not have a matching eye on the other side, but if they do, then if you hold them up toward a light at the correct angle, you should be able to see the light coming through the center of the marble. Probably with an orange glow. (I think I have heard of one color which doesn't have the glow ... might have been blue?)

Another nice flintie eye brought to us by Brian:

Yeah, Sue, I was also waiting for someone else with more knowledge to answer, but I finally gave in.

Mary, another thing to keep in mind is that not all translucent marbles are akro. Not even all translucent marbles with "fire" inside -- the orange glow you see when you hold them up to the light.

For instance, Champion and I think maybe even Jabo made swirls which are frequently mistaken for moonies. So, that's the clue there ... they're swirled inside. Akro Moonies and Flinties are not swirls.

Mary, the first thing I would point out is that Flinties aren't clear.

The earliest flinties looked practically transparent when you held them to a light, but they were still translucent.

Something which may not be known is that not all flinties had the fish eyes.

The earliest, most nearly clear flinties did not have eyes. (unless I am mistaken both in what I have read and in the name of one of my early flint-colored akros)

As they became less translucent, some got eyes.

There are even virtually opaque flinties, but you can see the orange glow through them if they do have the fish eyes.

Without the eyes, the most nearly opaque ones may be indistinguishable from other companies' game marbles but the ones which are closest to being clear still stand out.

Here are some photos of Flinties and Moonies in original packaging.

Box 1:

Box 2:

Box 3:

And a bump for me.

I remember a discussion a while back about whether a super colorful marble Alan i.d.ed as a Meteor should have been a Sunburst instead. What if it shouldn't have been either? If I remember correctly Alan's reason was that the marble couldn't be a Sunburst because it didn't have a tranparent base, but is there evidence for meteors with 5 colors?

Was there a time when Master didn't have style names at all for most of its marbles?