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Here is another package from Argentina. The marbles inside are loose, but I've heard others mention old style swirled marbles from South America. Again, the box says "Industria Argentina". (The photo looks like it probably came from an eBay auction, but I found it here. Jeff Hale describes the marbles as a sort of wirepull shooter.)

A Master Marbles bag from a Block auction: Auction description:

So, there will have to be at least one more post. I must report that they are BEAUTIFUL in hand. And Mr. Tallucchio is VERY nice.

Marbles from Argentina: These are pictures Rick posted awhile back. Their original thread was lost in the recent downsizing. Luckily I'd saved the photos. These are way cool. The bag says "Industria Argentina", indicating that's where they were made.

Marbles from Brazil: This bag was auctioned by the Lloyd Ralston Gallery. Auction description: Some of its contents: . . (source of contents photos)

Click game, from a Block auction. (click to enlarge)

I guess I'll keep adding pix as I find them. Maybe you couldn't guess ... but I like pix. Here's a Monaco stamp, first day cover issued May 9, 1989. From a Block auction.

The 2007 Tour info is at www.worldmarbles.com. (Here's the English version.) The site has pix of past tournaments, e.g., from 2006. The rules. Heats are made up of between 6 and 8 competitors. The competitors begin at the START line and each player takes his or her turn to have a first flick. Each competitor is attributed a coloured mini-cyclist used to mark the position of his/her marble on the circuit. The mini-cyclist is placed by the referee on the edge of the circuit next to the track. Each player may choose his own technique. However, the marble should be FLICKED with the thumb, index or middle finger. The hand or a finger must always remain in contact with the sand. The marble must NOT take off, but should roll as far as possible on the track. If the marble takes off, the player forfeits his turn. The marble must follow the track (full of obstacles !). Poles mark out different zones (eg. chicanes, the mountain etc..) . The marble must always pass through these poles. Shots are disqualified if the marble leaves the marked out boundaries of the sand track. The referee will refuse shots if : the marble is pushed, if it takes off or if it leaves the track. When a shot is refused, the competitor stays in his/her initial place and awaits the next go. Once all players have left the START line, the player who is in the lead plays again, followed by the player in 2nd place etc... The winner of each race is the first past the FINISH LINE. Here are some official gamepieces, cyclists and some of the marbles, from la boutique. The company formerly known as Vacor appears to be the tournament's marble supplier. This link is to a large (1.3M) pdf image of the from the site showing photos of what appears to be the complete set of official marbles in their blister packs. It's in French, which imho is cool! Check out the French words for shooter size marbles and boulders. In case you're not into playing and maybe you like to collect marble packaging, there appear to be unoffical versions also. For example, this from Amazon.fr: And these pix from Fnac éveil & jeux show pieces set up in the sand.

(Click pix to enlarge) Cornelian vs. Carnelian? As a mineral, the carnelian is the same as the cornelian. Here's a page describing the stone, Cornelian or carnelian. Here are sample pictures from that page: And here's a carnelian bracelet showing some of the brighter variations in color, from Earthen Vessel Designs. But Akro appears to have thought the stone was nice enough to name two different kinds of marbles after it! Here are examples from the Akro section of the ID Guide at Land of Marbles, along with the descriptions: [update/edit/addendum: I don't think fluorescence is necessary] Here's another Carnelian, this one with oxblood, from a Block auction. And then there's the M. F. Christensen American Cornelian. This is an old auction photo. I don't know who the seller was:

lol. Well, Simichrome was the only brand name I found when I was doing my search for a bakelite testers. Comes in a tube. I've used it a lot. Mostly on buttons and dice. Last month I even used it to clean some metal! lol Fun to watch the color change from pink to yellow when you for sure have bakelite. One thing is ... if I have this straight ... not all bakelite responds to the chemical test. But I think the smell test is suppose to work on all of it. Can anyone second that?

The version of the smell test I learned was to hold it under hot running water for just a bit. Then the smell seems rather strong to me. My version of the chemical test has been to use Simichrome Polish, one of those pinkish pastes. 409 sounds less messy.

Jobber boxes from recent auctions: (click to enlarge) The first two boxes are from Block. Here is his description:

Root Beer Floats, Novas, and Pink Champagnes Pelt Novas Believe It Or Not Marble Names Not From The Factory (see Post #5) Mostly Pix - Peltier (see Post #32) Are there any other Nova siblings than the once pictured in these links? This question is prompted by an LOM thread, which was prompted by this Bob Block Auction for a 1" vaseline glass marble he dated from 1970 to 1975 and called a Nova.

Bullet Molds: Revolutionary War era bullet mold, from the Morristown National Historical Park: . . (1) Description: A British war re-enactor casting musket balls in another handheld mold: . . (2) The consensus is that the orb here, Bullet Mold? is an old musket ball. It appears to have been made in a three part mold. And here you'll find some bullet mold marbles, in both the two-piece and three-piece styles: Has Anyone Heard Of.... Bulletmold??, anybody know for sure? Claw And Ball, I finally got one Czech marbles also appear to have been made in the bullet mold style: An unseamly question....or two.... (See Post #7)

Clambroths: Here's a thread at Marble Mental I'm sort of proud of, Clambroth. One of my first marble name games. . . (1) edit: pictures are missing. I need to fix that.

... and maybe 1934 ... The Chicago World's Fair, A Century of Progress. A marble shooter: Auction description:

Here's a different kind of bowl, a "jack". It's from a UK seller. (click to enlarge) Auction description: Here's what Baumann says about jacks: Baumann's estimated value for an F. H. Ayres jack is $150.

Christmas Trees: . . (1) (2) (pelt)

John Deeres: . . (1) (2) (pelt)

Moss Agates, No. 1, 100 count: (source and brief discussion)

Note: LOM in front of a link indicates that the linked page is hosted by LandOfMarbles.com. MM indicates a link at Marble Mental. KC is the Kansas City Marble Collectors Club. Akron is AkronMarbles.com. WWW will direct you elsewhere on the world wide web. Alley Agate Company (1929-1949) See also: the Alley section of Links: Original Packaging. Special discussions and displays: Marbles From The Sistersville Alley Site Alley, Alley, Oxen Free.... Interesting Marble (Very!) One Of These Is Different., Five are from the same company MM: ALLEY AGATE COMPANY - 3rd Article in the Series! LOM: Couldn't resist this one. (a history lesson in post #14 & post #26) Unusual Aventurine? (historical discussion) Marble Id Help, White base w/blue swirl (Ravenswood vs. Alley) Note about Alley sample case in Vitro collection: LOM: Vitro Book Questions Swirls: Alley's!!?? Alley? Baby Blue Ravenswood? Just A Show Take A Peek, " da ole cigar box strikes again " (superman/superboy colors) Wvs Stumper Flames: What Wvs Company Did This?, I gave up my wishful thinking on CAC (most of the pix are gone, but as of the time of this writing there is a great flame in post #11, and post #8 has an explanation of a case of mistaken identity that occasionally arises in connection with the famous Alley sample case) Alley Agate Mailman (very dendritic pattern there) Ca, I Assume? Alley Flames A Question Please. Very Busy Little Marble! Not Sure Who Madeit! Patches: I Am Thinking Vitro, what do you think? WWW: ALLEY PATCHES! (Paula Cole's website) Oxblood? Alley's!!?? Have No Idea As To What This Is, But I believe it has Oxblood on the surface (Horsehair) Oxblood?, Akro?, WVS (if so, which Co.?)? (most of the pix are gone, but there's a nice swirl in post #7) Never Seen One Of These Before, NEED AN I.D. PLEASE (braided! cool!) Aventurine: Id Marble Help Please I Love This One. Unusual Aventurine? Chalkies: Interesting Marble Tater Bugs: Alley Taters Other named Alleys: Ghost Marble Alley's Blue Skies And Blush Lines, Honoring Alley's Blue Lady Peewees: Alley Agate Peewees 3/8 Or Smaller--one Or More Of Each Mosaic Marbles, Pressman Who Made These Patches?, Rosenthal box (whether they are alley or not, there are peewee alley patches which these resemble) Shooters: Alley Or Ravenswood? Drizzle: Interesting Marble Alley Picture Gallery: Mostly Pix - Alley Mostly Pix - Pressman ------------------- Been awhile since I edited this thread. I'm just adding this link down here as a nice example without figuring out which category it should go in. Alley Or C.a.?

Still working on this ... from time to time. Suggestions are welcome. Discussions and illustrations of salient features in marble construction: Pontils: Yellow Single Ground, Faceted Pontil Marble Burn Pontil? Web Page About Japanese Pinch Pontil Marbles akronmarbles: Marble 'Pontil' Variations Please Tell Me More About These, WONDERFUL Old Marbles!! I think they.... (original photos missing, post #3 has some clear photos of faceted pontils) Questions About Marbles With Pontils Seams: An unseamly question....or two.... Red Slags Yellow A True Conundrum, Some CACs are just wrong (what is a seam? How many seams could a CAC have? How did seams get made by machines? and how did other seam-like features get made?) 9 & tail (and cut-off lines?): Are All Mfc Slags Hand-gathered? Ca-9 Slurp A Lot Of Lurv For Nines Cut Lines ??? Turkey head: Time To Eat Flames: Alley Flames A Question Please. Corkscrews other than Akro? Non Akro Cork, lets see yours Drizzle: Interesting Marble Id Please No Clue On This Drizzle "Reverse twist" on Pelts and others: Looking For Some Education, Identifying Marbles Calligraphy: MM: Calligraphy Marbles? Diaperfold: Ca-9 Diaper Fold Or Two-seamed Striped Opaque ??, 11/16" Christensen Agate Road and Tunnel: Would Either Of These Be Considered A "road And Tunnel" Design? Hand-gathering: Marble Furnace Question Here Is Found One.... Couple O Hgs Hand-gathered/handmade, The difference is..? Bullet Mold: Has Anyone Heard Of.... Bulletmold??, anybody know for sure? Claw And Ball, I finally got one Something Different Steelies: Handmade Or Machine-made? Hand "gathered"? (read the patent. try to picture how the press works!) Oxblood Examples & Discussion: Oxblood Examples akro 00 box! German Ox, where was ya Show Us Your Slags With Oxblood! Oxblood Patches And Swirls Oxblood, Why is oxblood so variable from maker to maker? Green Brick?? Odd Shooter Oxblood's Any Clue Akro, German Or Somthing Else? Horsehair oxblood: Alley's!!?? Have No Idea As To What This Is, But I believe it has Oxblood on the surface (Horsehair) Oxblood?, Akro?, WVS (if so, which Co.?)? (most of the pix are gone, but there's a nice swirl in post #7) Horsehair Examples? Lutz: Ebay Plug - Some Nice Ones This Week! (super pix) Aventurine: Yellow Adventurine, On Pelt's of course Red Aventurine, Better look hard at your WVS's Id Marble Help Please (Alley Agate swirls) Pee Wee Blue Green Alley Aventurine Swirl, BLUE GREEN ADVENTURINE SWIRL Sunshine And Aventurine, a good combo Peltier Bumblebee Copper And Chromic Oxide Aventurine, yep green aventurine along side the black aventurine. (Akro Royal) Unusual Aventurine? Mica: Got Mica ?, mmm ... sparkly Egg yolk: For Jay ... What Exactly Is Eggyolk? Metallic: Id Please.. Chocolate Cow Peltier Nlr?, brown/blue/white Metallic Marbles? Swirls, Metallics, Cacs: Id Confirmations Needed 2 Metallic & 1 Pink Peltier (coppery?) There was also one which looked like it had a gold nugget inside ... Vaseline Glass (and other fluorescent marbles): Blast from the past - Bloodies (fun fluorescing mouseover at the linked site) California Sulfides, Anyone have pictures?? (has a link to a Land of Marbles thread discussing fluorescence as a sign of age in sulphides) Bought Uv Blacklight - Pretty Cool ???results??, Added tools to help ID, still not so cut and dry Vaseline Glass? LOM: Porcelfrit that glows (historical note about government requisitioning uranium) Pistachio ... Who Used It? (Ron noted about 70% of Alley pistachio glows) About colors: Vitro Tri-lites Pistachio ... Who Used It? Did Anyone Make Pink Marbles? MFC Red? (the prevailing theory is that MFC didn't make red slags) Akro Black? Anybody's black? About sizes: Sit A Spell And Tell Me More About Peewees What Is The Biggest Marble ... Errors and variations: New Theory On The Origin Of My Purple Vitro Banana Burn Pontil? Non-Akro Corks Bifurcated Pelts Hybrids: Double Ingots: Double Ingot Marbles, 3 dug at the old Akro Agate factory Double Ingot, catseye Triple Ingots: Triple Ingot Marbles Alternating Latticinio's Blue/green?, or other odd one's Are You Ready For Some Footballll??!!!!, let's see some your favorite errors (see post #21) Footballs, buttons and other shapes: Are You Ready For Some Footballll??!!!!, let's see some your favorite errors Same cane handmades: End-of-cane handmades: Slurp A Lot A Lurv For Handmades, I got carried away with the handmades End Of Cane Cloud ?, End of Day Four Panel Onionskin? End-of-run machine-mades: End Of Cane Popeye Same run machine-mades: Bocci End of day? Lobed Shrunken Core......light Green Glass, but is it end of day or cloud? Ceramic Glazes: Creases and Folds: Butt Cracks? Who Do Ya Think..... Buttcracks Please "Anemic" Marbles: Pigtails? Has Anyone Heard Of Pigtails Bubbles: Bubbles In Marbles Mica In A Pelt ?, look at this !!!!!! Debris: Lemme' See All Your "junk" Mibs!! Peltiers (golden debris) Oven Debris, and value Orange Peel, and other surface texture issues: Orange Peel Surface On Peltiers Calling On The Marble Minds!! (Frosted surfaces -- wear, water damage, intentional, ...?) Fried Marbles: How To Fry Marbles Oddities: Only One Of These I've Seen - Thoughts? (painted marble?) Other Discussions About Marble Making: An Ad For A 1&5/8 Mfc Oxblood ?????? (making marbles from cullet)

Very rough draft (The entries which don't have links are ones which used to have links, and I just want a reminder of the things which were discussed. Maybe someone else will start a thread about them.) Nomenclature discussions: Who came up with the names? Original Names Of Marbles, LETS MAKE A LIST OF "FACTORY" NAMED Marble Names Not From The Factory, THE OTHER SIDE!! Question For Pelt Collectors? Jabos Extraordinaire!, Nov. 06 runs (In post #2, there is a link to a Marble Mental thread about the name “Extraordinaire” already being used.) the elusive Kato, (sorry about the fingers!) Blue Angels (named by Smitty?) Pelt Woodies (who named them? I think it was said in an old thread, but the thread is now gone) Akro Claudia & Akro Jolly Roger. These are digger names for experimental blue and orange patches. (source: tba) Found This One In A Pile Of Bricks, WARNING: This post contains extreme eye candy! (blood agate) Slags (aka Onyx): Single Seam Slag Or Striped Transparent ???, 3/4" CA "slag" Vs. "onyx" Slag in the earliest sense? Handmade slag Peltier Miller Machine Marbles: LOM: Pelt Miller Peltier Champion Jr. Marbles: We Are The Champions? Named NLR's versus similarly colored Rainbos: Is It A Bird, Is It A Plane --- Superman, right?? Colorful examples: Orange Slags, photo reference Cloud vs. Clown Counting colors: 4-color Ca Striped Opaque -- Not!, Am I right? (one of my pix is missing; I'll try to fix that) 3 Color Popeye Or Hybrid? Different ways colors are counted for different marbles types? How many colors are needed in a Vitro parrot? Other discussions and debate: Why name marbles? Why not name marbles? A New Pea To The World Never Seen Before, Peltier Mk The meaning of blended in connection with Marble King What constitutes a wirepull? Lemon lime pelt? My Find Labed #13, hope this is a peltier clown Akro Butterscotch brick What could/should be called a transitional, in addition to the famous "Transitionals"? For example, are Pelt "tweeners" transitional?

MAYBE this will be my last Zia post. lol I can't help it. I really like Barbiton Tallucchio's style! This box has an old metal marble shooter in it, one that looks every bit of its age! (which to me makes it all more fun!) Auction description: