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I wondered about that in the first picture ? In hand there would be no doubt.

Nice. Marbles were made to make smiles old or newer.

I agree clear and amber or brown tint. What happens when a marble does not spin correct and spins in one single roll groove. In one single direction to long. It will get a so called ying yang twist or cork on one pole and it can heat up which will cause clear to burn which goes to amber then brown then black. Every marble has to spin in all different directions on its own axis in each roll groove going down the length of the rolls.

If you are happy, you did not overpay. Even if next year you find ten of them for $1.00. You were happy with the first one.

Real or fake Popeye ? Clear base corkscrew white filaments Popeye with blue/yellow/orange hybrid and oxblood.

Correct Champion marble named Pumpkins by the late Charlie Stutsman. Then later named Hot Wheels by someone else. I don't know who ? Same marble two different names. Less confusion that way LOL, LOL. The name game. Name it so it is worth more. Buy a name. But I like buying marbles better. I have bought a name more than once and I was not happy with myself later on.

Good luck the old four color ones are disappearing fast into collections the last five years.

That is probably 5/8 inch. In the second picture, the swirl pattern looks like CAC to me with that long narrow thin tail to the red swirl. In the middle of the marble. The color combo fits CAC ok. They made lots of flames with this same blue and red.

Transparent yellow base glass would be odd for CAC or Cairo.

These St.Marys Cats today were all the most common color combo, blue and yellow. Hard to find MK cross through Cats are Red/white- green/white and the signature blue/orange or red. Plus the old four color ones. But I see more four color ones than the red/white- green/white or signatures. I have had a few 7/8 and one inch St.Marys old four color Cat eyes. I sold a 13/16 inch old MK St.Marys four color cat about one year ago at the Decatur Il show. I knew that collector was looking for one the past three years or more. So he has one now.

size ? Maybe CAC ?

No not every Cairo that has white will glow. Only the ones that has been labeled Ivory. That is because of that certain limited dirty white Vitrolite cullet. Which I think Jackson and Davis shared one dump truck load. I am 100% sure the ivory marbles at the Cairo Novelty site were all made at Jackson and Davis companies, not far away. Then ended up at the Cairo Novelty site after both of those two companies closed. Cairo did not use Ponds's jars. but lots of other non glowing white from Fenton and white Vitrolite thats does not glow, plus others. I can match exact any group of three or six so called Ivories found at Cairo with dug Jackson or Davis. Dave McCullough with over 30 years of making marbles tried for many years to copy another companies marbles. He came close one time while at Champion. He was trying to copy Ravenswoods. They still confuse people today and will for years. I don't think Cairo Novelty copied Jacksons and Davis exact. Especially when Jackosn and Davis were so limited in numbers of varieties made. Call them Cairo ivories but they are Jackson and Davis to me. I sent some of my dug Jackson and Davis to the last Cairo dig. The diggers compared the ivories that they dug and what I sent Jackson and Davis marbles and no one could separate them. Ravenswoods or Champions ?

I drove a half hour each way to look at over 50 pint and mostly quart jars of marbles. Saw a few MK St.Marys Cat Eyes today. The usual small and large solid ball bearings. Did not bring anything home. He bought these a while back and paid $300.00 for all. But that was at least $275.00 or $285.00 to much. He knows nothing about marbles. They are old they are valuable. But there were Jabos in several jars. Wrong he took a $300.00 chance and lost most all of it. Last week we drove two each way to Cambridge Ohio to look at 2 or 3 gallons of old marbles. Same results did not bring any marble back home with us. Jabos must be old because there were several Jabos in with these Asian Cat Eyes, maybe six All Reds, a couple Heatons, and the usual clearies and game marbles. No CAC from Cambridge Ohio this trip. No marbles brought home 98% of all trips throughout the year within 100 miles of here.

If it is any Cairo ivory it has to glow from the certain limited dirty white or ivory white Vitrolite cullet used in making it. Most Cairo Novelty similar to this have a clear base, not tinted yellow, with white swirl. The seedy bad glass would be unusual for CAC. Maybe Champion or Alox ? You can eliminate some but probably not down to only one maker. Typical of most transparent base and single color WV swirls. Where is the yellow tint coming from ?

I still say modern.

Joseph Coat. No St.Joseph's.

For sure not Cairo. Depends on if it is red or orange ? Again we just id the pictures, that is all we have to go by. Some of the pictures look red and some look orange. If red then Ravenswood. If more to the orange side it is probably Champion. WV swirl colors are very important. Many times a slight difference in a shade of color can separate them. Important is size, color, pattern, glow or not, opaque or transparent, age old or new ?

I agree 100% the first China, the left marble is the exact same glass and color combo as the one Ric pictured and that you had in the id section.

All Alley.

St.Marys Alleys for me.

I agree that the plastic bags with Paul Bunyan marbles with the paper tag attached about Akro is a fantasy bag. I thought Ric or Al may also confirm it. No melted seam down the back of the bag. Yes the bag is folded over at the top, not like any other original Ravenwood plastic bag. The information on the paper tag is wrong on dates. These bags have age to the plastic, header and staples. But they could have been put together anytime after Ravenswood closed in 1955. So these bags could be 50-60 years old. If I look at all the things above, the list of things that might confirm that someone made the Paul Bunyan marbles at Ravenwood Novelty far out numbers anything that points to any other company producing the Paul Bunyan marbles. Ric 2-25-2011 and it has never been opened. Maybe it is full of rocks ?

Nothing there looks Kokomo to me. Never believe any seller on Ebay, Facebook or anyplace. Buy the marbles not the story or what a seller says. Depend on marble auctions for identifications and you will stay confused.

Champion made a large quantity of marbles from start to finish. All through the 1980's-1990's. Early on they made more game marbles than swirls, like many companies did. You can find early Champion swirls in original mesh and later plastic bags. I see Champion marbles at every marble show I attend. The Champion furnace marbles were a very short time period, only a few days. The marbles were all discarded or gave away to employees by Champion. They had no plans to keep them before they were made. As they thought that the marbles would all be fractured due to glass coefficient being off. They had hopes of a very different coefficient glass would wash or clean out the furnace rather than build a new one. It did not work.

Jabo classic.

It is not Jabo. It is old and I would have it with my Alleys.