Jolly Roger?

[rick000brown]

I've gotten conflicting information concerning Akro Jolly Roger's and Claudia's. Some say size determines and others patch v's corkscrew. Anything definitive or just random nick names?

http://s284.photobucket.com/user/rick_brown9/media/Akro/IMG_20150529_184411943_zpsnwacgtwd.jpg.html

[Steph]

My understanding is that the names are for the large ones.

Jolly Roger for the large corks.

Claudia for the large patches.

My understanding is based on discussions from 8 years ago. Things may have changed since then.

[BobBlock]

Specifically, the large corks and patches that are 1-1/8". Not just any large cork or patch in that specific hue of color

[rick000brown]

Thank you

[Alan]

They need to be larger than 1: dia. Almost 100% of them have an orange peel surface.

I own one that is slightly larger than 1" dia. - but it is simply a large corkscrew and not a JR.

[IowaMarble]

Here are a couple of the Jolly Rogers... they both have the orange peel surface that Alan mentions.

http://www.mibbage.com/html/akro/00294.htm

http://www.mibbage.com/html/akro/00054.htm

[mibcapper]

My understanding is that the names are for the large ones.

Jolly Roger for the large corks.

Claudia for the large patches.

My understanding is based on discussions from 8 years ago. Things may have changed since then.

exactly what roger h. and claudia stood there and said ....... bill

[BobBlock]

exactly what roger h. and claudia stood there and said ....... bill

Roger sold these about 25 years ago. He had 27 or 28 of the Jolly Rogers (1-1/8") and a more substantial quantity of the Claudias (1-1/8"). He sold all the Jolly Rogers fairly quickly, but I remember him bringing the Claudias to shows for a few years before they all sold. The name Jolly Roger and Claudia was applied to them much later, I think the first place the name showed up was in one of Danny Turner's catalogue or maybe Alan popularized it, I can't remember. But it had to be 5-8 years after Roger had sold them out. Roger did not apply that name to them, that was done by collectors later.

[Alan]

Roger sold these about 25 years ago. He had 27 or 28 of the Jolly Rogers (1-1/8") and a more substantial quantity of the Claudias (1-1/8"). He sold all the Jolly Rogers fairly quickly, but I remember him bringing the Claudias to shows for a few years before they all sold. The name Jolly Roger and Claudia was applied to them much later, I think the first place the name showed up was in one of Danny Turner's catalogue or maybe Alan popularized it, I can't remember. But it had to be 5-8 years after Roger had sold them out. Roger did not apply them name to them, that was done by collectors later.

Bob's points are all correct.

[BobBlock]

The Jolly Roger name was applied as a homage to Roger Hardy. The Claudia name actually came about later, not at the same time. The corkscrews (Jolly Rogers) were really sought after early on. The patches (Claudias) were a hard sell for a long time.