boris64 Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 The 4 th one has so many different colors but I’m thinking a vitro? The pelt has one black stripe how did that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 It's hard to tell about the first one. The second looks like a big, somewhat unusual Vitro. The third is a 6 ribbon Peltier Rainbo, the fourth is a Vitro - looks like a very nice unusual Tiger Eye, and the fifth is a nice Alley Flame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Roberto Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 The big one (shooter) the second in the first photo, if amber base is a fancy conqueror vitro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 2X on the Fancy Conqueror. One of my favorite Vitros 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, Fire1981 said: 2X on the Fancy Conqueror. One of my favorite Vitros 👍 What makes it Fancy - it's oddity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 Kinda of. I finally got the ID off of the Vitro ID thread here. Mine is the same size but has a blue/green transparent base glass. I still don’t really know the difference between the Exotics and the Fancies. I’m just glad I have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Roberto Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 Exotics and fantasies in my opinion are very similar, except that the former have (usually) a transparent or slightly amber base, type champagne and multicolored on the surface, while the latter, in addition to having multicolored on the surface, can have a transparent dark amber base (as in the case above) or green etc. I can't say more about it. Here is my shooter similar to the op, while the second and another fancy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Da Roberto said: Exotics and fantasies in my opinion are very similar, except that the former have (usually) a transparent or slightly amber base, type champagne and multicolored on the surface, while the latter, in addition to having multicolored on the surface, can have a transparent dark amber base (as in the case above) or green etc. Thanks for the explanation, when you say "multicolor on the surface", does that include white? Because it seems the vast majority of Conquerors have white and another color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Roberto Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ric said: Grazie per la spiegazione, quando dici "multicolore in superficie", include il bianco? Perché sembra che la stragrande maggioranza dei conquistatori abbia il bianco e un altro colore. Yes, good question Ric In the past, the issue of white has been a matter of debate. Now, if in a marble the base is white and contains two colors, it is NOT tricolor but two colors , while, if the base of the marble has another color than white, white in addition to other colors, does it count as color ok? So, in my opinion, white in conquerors (fancy and exsotic) counts as a color, especially if it contains little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Roberto Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 Anyway, the question of white is a bit subjective in my opinion, everyone thinks in their own way .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Roberto Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 Exotic conqueror 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 I imagine some of these would fit but I am still not entirely sure which, or where. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Roberto Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 I think the ones I've highlighted fall into this category of exotic or fancy, but it would be better to have individual photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Da Roberto said: I think the ones I've highlighted fall into this category of exotic or fancy, but it would be better to have individual photos. If I had a consice definition I could sort them myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 I'll take a try . . Fancy, 2 or more colors not including white or 3 or more colors including white, on a clear transparent base. Exotic, 2 or more colors including white on a colored transparent base. Does that sound right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Roberto Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 Well I think there are some very obvious, safe exotic and fancy,conquerors, others may be similar (by color combination) without having a total certainty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Da Roberto said: Well I think there are some very obvious, safe exotic and fancy,conquerors, others may be similar (by color combination) without having a total certainty So, if I am hearing you correctly, there really is no definition of Fancy and Exotic Conquerors. That should be fixed, or the names are not helpful. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Roberto Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ric said: ci proverò. . Fantasia, 2 o più colori escluso il bianco o 3 o più colori compreso il bianco, su base trasparente trasparente. Esotico, 2 o più colori compreso il bianco su base trasparente colorata. Suona bene? Fancy = colored transparent base, generally dark amber or green, with 2 or three colors with possible traces of white Exotic = neutral transparent base, or light amber transparent base with 2 or three colors including white The difference in my opinion is that the fancy have a more colorful transparent base than the exotic ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Roberto Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ric said: Quindi, se ho capito bene, non c'è davvero una definizione di Fancy ed Exotic Conquerors. Dovrebbe essere risolto, o i nomi non sono utili. 🙂 The fact is that there are many color combinations, (perhaps still unknown) that leave perplexity and cause for debate. The only way is to post and hear various opinions to have more certainty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 Thank you, Roberto - it does seem like there is plenty of room for clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Roberto Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 This one, for example, appears to be similar to your first one and seems to belong to the exotic, to the patch but not for sure, it has small features Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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