LevvyPoole Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 7/8 Some striations can be seen on surface, same as the blues. Ever such a slight companion line in green within this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Pretty standard, but nice clear structureto the lines, 29/32. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 31/32, lovely bright orange. This one confused me a bit, so I took some pictures with the smaller orange and white ones from the Gibson solitaire board. The shade is very similar, but I think the definition of the lines and glass quality can clearly be seen to differ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 A real beauty. I've added some with a couple of the opaques to show some strong similarities in the surface lines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 And finally...I think we are all agreed these are definitely veiligglas? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Yep--nice ones here--very nice! Marble--On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 3 hours ago, LevvyPoole said: 7/8 Some striations can be seen on surface, same as the blues. Ever such a slight companion line in green within this one. This one makes me wonder?? Marble--On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiroaiko Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 When we talk about wirepull makers, I think Seike should also be part of the discussion. I know this thread is about Hopf vs. Veiligglas, but to my eyes, some of the marbles shown look like Seike’s work. In the first picture, the box you see is the “16 Bolitas Japonesas” box from Argentina. The second and third pictures show a Codeg box marked "Foreign"—and in both of these cases, I believe Japan would be the most reasonable answer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 5 hours ago, shiroaiko said: When we talk about wirepull makers, I think Seike should also be part of the discussion . . . Some day, I will try to take individual photos of the marbles in that CODEG box, AIko. Your last comparison of the marble I got from Winnie with the one in the box is part of the reason I still think the boxed marbles are Veiligglas. 🙂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiroaiko Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 @Ric, thanks in advance for your help. It's good news to me—I've always wanted to study marbles that are still in their original boxes. The general definition of Veiligglas wirepulls was shaped at a time when Seike marbles weren’t yet recognized in the marble community. Now that we’re seeing three possible makers of wirepulls, I think it’s time we study original boxed sets with fresh eyes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 5 minutes ago, shiroaiko said: @Ric, thanks in advance for your help. It's good news to me—I've always wanted to study marbles that are still in their original boxes. The general definition of Veiligglas wirepulls was shaped at a time when Seike marbles weren’t yet recognized in the marble community. Now that we’re seeing three possible makers of wirepulls, I think it’s time we study original boxed sets with fresh eyes. Yes, good point. Seike isn't one that I've spent a lot of time looking into yet (I had forgotten that I intended to at some point, probably getting distracted by another avenue), so will spend some time seeing what I notice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVacorFan Posted July 8 Author Report Share Posted July 8 Sorry I haven't really responded to this thread in a long time. The fact that I couldn't find any further info on Hopf, even when asking the city/state archive of Coburg has basically stalled my research completely. I do now have Renée Holler's "Murmeln, Schusser, Klicker" book, but it doesn't reveal more about the company, except for the marbles they made. I find the marbles on the book's cover a bit hard to discern from Veiligglas. I think the ones from Hopf appear to have less crisp definition between the ribbon colours, but even that is disputable. I couldn't find any other differences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Marbles Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 On 7/1/2025 at 3:30 PM, LevvyPoole said: A real beauty. I've added some with a couple of the opaques to show some strong similarities in the surface lines. There are more than just similarities. The marbles are the same but with different glass combinations. The difference between a swirl and a flame is the way the glass stream piles upon itself. Swirl = Random. Flame = Coil. Enjoy the journey!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 15 hours ago, Shamrock Marbles said: There are more than just similarities. The marbles are the same but with different glass combinations. The difference between a swirl and a flame is the way the glass stream piles upon itself. Swirl = Random. Flame = Coil. Enjoy the journey!! These are great points, John. It is pretty easy to see the more or less planar coiling aspect of the transparent marbles I showed on page 2 of this thread. I tried to show the ends of the stream on opposite sides of the marble in the lower right two views for each marble. It's there on the opaque marble I showed too but because of the opacity it's a little harder to see. I do not see the same sort of coiling on the Hopf wirepulls I have - they appear much more random to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 All Veiligglas Amsterdam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Another Veiligglas - a little smaller at 11/16". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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