Slag ?

[Jones]

This one is 17.59 mm.  sometimes i look at it and think modern. Not really sure. Thanks for any input

[I'llhavethat1]

Looks vintage handgathered to me.  Lots of companies made these before manufactures became more automated with machine made marbles.  Most of the identifying detail will be where the cut off point is, but even then can be hard to agree on company..  or even country of origin.

[Jones]

Right on thanks.I kinda thought so but somedays i would try to convince myself otherwise. Yes what use to be an obessive denial , i now know and accept , that every marble can't be company/country identified . But rather just age and how its made. Just reading the replies helps trigger some base knowledge i have. This 1 is a cool blue colour.

[akroorka]

9 hours ago, Jones said:

sometimes i look at it and think modern. Not really sure.

This is an older slag that I cannot ID.

It is a very nice color!

Marble--On!!

[Ric]

I agree this is an old transitional slag (hand-gathered and machine rounded), and a nice one too.

You might learn more if you can identify or describe the cut-off mark, which I would expect to find in the area I've circled (from your 5th photo).

Do you see anything that looks like an indented or raised line, or pinhead-sized bump in that area?

[Jones]

Yes there is a bit of a indent right at the end of the hook. A straight line about 3 mm length.

[Ric]

I can't imagine much better photos - they're great, but I still have to use my imagination quite a bit to see a cut-off mark. 🙂

So based on your photos and your description of the cut-off I am going to guess it's a Japanese pinch "pontil" transitional. But it's a great example of a transitional slag marble, regardless of whatever else you might want to call it.

[Jones]

I am glad the photo were good. I used this clip on macro lens for the phone.

 

Japan pinch pontil transitional. Cool. Nice detective work. Thanks.