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WHISPLERS, as Master can sometimes deceive


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10 hours ago, Roberto said:

I understand that it has many characteristics to be so, but in my opinion it is not. It has glass that is too clean and clear to be a whispler (from my monitor)

Any suggestions as to who the maker was?

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8 hours ago, schmoozer said:

Any suggestions as to who the maker was?

 

I was just considering yesterday the various possibilities of this production, even though I must admit that it is a bit of a difficult marble, which seems like a hybrid of Whispler (which rightly inspired you) and Master.

In my opinion, Master did it, even though I can't confirm it 100%. I give a small percentage to the European, like France... for example, but only minimally

 

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8 hours ago, aussie said:

If you found it in the wild in America then probably an American maker about which I know very little.

 

I don't really agree with this. Here, in the United States, there are marbles coming from every part of the world that you can't even imagine. Including Italian ceramic marbles made by Laura Berretti,...would you ever have said?

See link,

The active link is up above

https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?t=67773

 

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3 hours ago, laero21 said:

This one is gorgeous 🥰 

 

Yes, this is extraordinary, it looks like they have fused, on top, a piece of "wood" with the various grains, you can even count how many years it has 🤣🤣🤣

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15 hours ago, Roberto said:

 

I was just considering yesterday the various possibilities of this production, even though I must admit that it is a bit of a difficult marble, which seems like a hybrid of Whispler (which rightly inspired you) and Master.

In my opinion, Master did it, even though I can't confirm it 100%. I give a small percentage to the European, like France... for example, but only minimally

 

At 15/16”? General thought is Masters did 25/32” max…

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17 hours ago, schmoozer said:

At 15/16”? General thought is Masters did 25/32” max…

 

This is also true. It could be Master Glass, which seems to have reached up to one inch..

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15 hours ago, akroorka said:

Yes--"grande"(great) ones-- Roberto.

What is the "diametro"( diameter) of these beuties?

Marble--On!!

 

Both  0,944  (24mm)

 Please note (in the first one) the similarity with Master, in the structure

 

 

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Roberto, this thread is so helpful! You mentioned the stronger seams in Master. From your examples, it seems like the filaments and striations of Whisplers are more wobbly. The Masters are more straight and decisive. Does that seem correct or am I imagining things? Another thing I wonder about is the amount of clear space between the filaments. It seems like Whisplers are sometimes more spaced out. The size of the bubbles also strikes me — I have a few bubbly Masters but the bubbles are tiny. Here are three that I have, which I think might be Whisplers. (Two photos of each) What do you think? IMG_7801.thumb.jpeg.d239ff13d7eaab3900901901d55cbe57.jpeg
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1 hour ago, RosalieR said:

Roberto, this thread is so helpful! You mentioned the stronger seams in Master. From your examples, it seems like the filaments and striations of Whisplers are more wobbly. The Masters are more straight and decisive. Does that seem correct or am I imagining things? Another thing I wonder about is the amount of clear space between the filaments. It seems like Whisplers are sometimes more spaced out. The size of the bubbles also strikes me — I have a few bubbly Masters but the bubbles are tiny. Here are three that I have, which I think might be Whisplers. (Two photos of each) What do you think? IMG_7801.thumb.jpeg.d239ff13d7eaab3900901901d55cbe57.jpeg
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Thank you, RosalieR- Your observations are very correct, congratulations!

Yes, as I was saying, the joints of the Masters are generally cleaner, more defined, indeed, also regarding the filaments I agree with you.

As for bubbles, many whisplers have an exaggerated amount (although it is not a rule) of bubbles of all sizes, large, small, and medium, enclosed in a single marble,...something that is very difficult or even impossible to notice in a Master.

Yes, your three are 100% whisperers, the first one is crazy! It's one of those rare clean ones, with very few or no bubbles and a nice green glass. What size is it?

 

 

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