Steph Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 So, the company name for popeyes was Tri-Onyx? It seems that this is common knowledge ... but I never registered it until a couple of minutes ago ... when re-reading a section of Alan's ID pages which I would have said I'd read a dozen times before. Whoops! Was Tri-Onxy also the company name for lemonades and the other ades and the oxbloods in the yellow popeye boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delkins Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Steph, I was under the impression that a tri-onyx was a popeye, and that lemonade oxbloods, eggyolk oxbloods, etc, were called imperials. Imperials being Akros "fancier" line of marbles. Just what I think I've heard, I could certainly be wrong. -Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 That makes sense. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 it wasn't used for them when the Imperial first came out. Maybe latter they were using up boxes? And notice the date. No corkscrews mention and still pics of slags, Peace,Galen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delkins Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Thanks Galen. It would be awesome to have a timeline of their marbles, like it would seem popeyes are earlier than prizenames, etc. I was reading last night that there was talk in 1997 of doing an archeological type excavation of the foundation of parts of the factory and being able to date marbles by under which additions to the original factory they were found. But, alas, it never happened. I see, though, that original advertising is also a great way to date stuff. Thanks for sharing it. -Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delkins Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I think its interesting that if you look at a salesman's sample box, you see prizenames, popeyes, sparklers, slags, etc... but you don't see oxbloods, cornelians, carnelians, or ades. Its my hypothesis that these were all some of the first marbles made by them on Early's machines. Its interesting, though, that it seems slag production continued alongside the corks, unless it was all old stock by that time. Entirely my humble opinion. Fun stuff! -Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I really think slag production ended when corkscrew production began in ernest. Peace,Galen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 This is from the enclosure promoting the naming contest for what we now call Prize Names. It gives the names Akro used sometime around 1929. . . . In presenting to our juvenile customers this beautiful new line of marbles, we have been at a loss to find a suitable name to describe them, therefore we will put it up to our boy and girl friends to give this new marble a name. . . . Attached you will find ten coupons. Give one to each customer who purchases ten of these marbles. They will fill in his or her name and address with with their suggestions for a name for our new marble, and mail to THE AKRO AGATE COMPANY, CLARKSBURG, W. VA. . . . As soon as possible after the Contest closes, we will have three judges, men of national reputation in marble games, select the most fitting name from all of the suggestions sent us. . . . We now manufacture marbles under the following names: Akro Striped Onyx, Akro Cardinal Red, Akro Moonie, Akro Imperial and Akro Flintie. MR. DEALER After that came the contest rules. There were to be five prizes, ranging from $10 to $100. The deadline for entries was Midnight, May 1, 1930. Winners were to be announced in the June issue of Boys' Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 The first five color combos of the kind of tri-color cork we now call Specials appear to have been introduced in the early 1930's. These images are from Dani and Ernie's catalog. I think it sounds like the Aces may have been released to the market before the Tri-Colors. Sounds like they had some feedback from the public already and the Tri-Colors were just coming out of the experimental stage. ? ?? At least I guess those are what we now call Specials. That red, green and white one couldn't have been a popeye, could it? ?? Could the blue and white and brownish one have been an oxblood? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlmoriarty Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 I really think slag production ended when corkscrew production began in ernest. Peace,Galen Galen~~ can you put that in time context? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I believe by the mid tolate 30s most slag production had ended, I believe by the late 30s add material is mostly corkscrews and patches with no mention of slags after about 35. there are some that have the exact information and years. Peace,Galen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jormibnut Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I don't think any Akro Agate ads after 1930 or 1931 showed slags. When you think about it, slags were the staple from MFC for 15 years and then from Akro for at least 10 more. By that time kids were ready for a change. Just like when Cat eyes hit the market. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delkins Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I think its interesting that their clear-based corkscrews are known as onyxs. Like it was their spinner-cup substitution for the slag. It seems to me that onyx and striped onyx are often used to describe different marbles. Their 1931 ad "The Akro Line is Complete" describes onyx's as being slags, and then spirals as being clear-based corkscrews IMHO. However, the books seem to abound with "spirals" in "onyx" packaging. Just some stuff I've been thinking about. I like this kind of stuff. Thanks for humoring me. LOL! -Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 The name Cardinal Red transfered from Slags to corks of similar color. Like their use of the Onyx name. Peace,Galen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delkins Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Thanks, Galen! -Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1DanS Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Don't know if this means a damn thing, but......... Before 19??: After 19??: thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delkins Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Thanks, Dan. I do know, from the photos I've seen, that the "Liberty" no. 200 tin has corkscrew onyxs in it and is thought to date from late WWII. No big surprise there, I suppose, that the slags were gone by then. It would be awesome to know when the differnt salesman's sample boxes were put together. Of course, stuff could always have been backfilled too. Fun thread! -Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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