Steph

Kevin was welcomed at this board when no other board would put up with him. He posted abusively. Loudly. With foul language. He violated board etiquette. Not just "edgy". He violated explicit warnings. He repeatedly posted things he was told not to. He had to be put on "post approval", which means that a moderator had to read what he wrote and approve it before it showed up for everyone else.

This hurt his feelings.

He swore that this board was going to go down in flames and he started his own board.

So yeah, it's a different site, and a different side.

edit: That was the "long story short" version.

He was actually put on "post approval" twice and suspended once. When he was suspended he used a fake IP address to reregister with a new name. We figured that out fast but Lou let him stay anyway.

Lou and Sue were amazingingly patient with him but that's not the story you will hear from him. So, yes, it's a different side.

Bumping it for you and opening it up to the main chat. :-)

Here are some more pix from Nancy. The turquoise and gold make nice accents. And one of those looks like it has a lot of clear. I still love the snowy white ones. Nice assortment all around.

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It's alright.

It's just not pleasant to link to the site of someone who despises us that much.

I hope you understand. No offense intended to you. :-) For you, I hope the link worked.

LOL.

Why do people keep asking here when Kevin's site goes down? He has sworn that this board is going to go down in flames. Asking about his board here is like rubbing salt in the wound he has already perpetrated on us.

But, um, yes, Stace, I think I do know. :-) lol. He seems to have changed his forum's address up a little.

Try this:

allaboutmarbles.com

I thought I'd seen one like this recently in an oxblood discussion.

I'm not sure where to look for it though. Not having good luck with search engines lately and haven't been saving pix like I used to, due to computer troubles.

.... so how much do you trust yourself to be able to tell ox in hand?

Hey Brian, your banana has three fans.

Quote of the day: "I don't know Brian, but dancing bananas are awesome!!"

how do you decide which is which?

Thanks as always, Nancy. Can hardly wait for your book!

I'm sure the new Hall of Fame organizing folks (and those Texans AND non-Texans who will join them) have a good idea of who the first few waves of inductees should be. I'm just surprised that so many people here have been ignoring . . . um . . . Leighton? Fiedler? Those guys? Or is it just because they were mentioned in another thread?

Good point Ann. Yeah they were mentioned in another thread and the emphasis here looks like it's on collectors (or their outerwear), but yeah, thanks for bringing the marble making pioneers into the thread. *thumbs up*

Martin Christensen's greatgranddaughter (or other descendant) might even be able to be found for a presentation. I've seen a fairly recent article featuring one of his descendants.

really cool supermen buba...i keep seeing NIR on a lot of different posts, what does that mean? thanks, jack

That's NLR, for "National Line Rainbo".

Some time around the mid-30's Peltier changed their Rainbo style.

Marbles made before the change have been seen in packaging with the "National Line" brand on them, so this earlier version is called National Line Rainbo.

Marbles made after the change are called simply Rainbos.

Ode to Brian's banana

. . . coz I should be doing laundry.

:ph34r:

Kewl. Thanks. I think I'm seeing it.

More Alleys to find!

So are we seeing a clue about how those two colors - the orange and the green - behaved in the furnace?

How hard it was for the color batches to mix, or how easy it was for them to separate . . . or sumpin.

Brown?

I see a brown band on the side of the ribbon but some looks like brick. Is it possible we are looking at ox? edit: oh now I see you mentioned ox in the subtitle. sorry for missing that before.

I'll suggest Alley, but mostly to start the conversation rolling.

Do you happen to recall what was said about them in the main chat? If no one else replies here maybe I'll send it over to there.

It provided some new info and different info for different people during the opening.

How tantalizing. Was there paperwork?

Bonanza!

I'm so sorry. I wish I saw them. I'm actually crying. You're always so fun. Where was everyone?

I know. I know what we were paying attention to. Man, we owe you.

:( :( :(

I missed this thread somehow. I don't know how.

Now I feel totally sick that no one replied.

Suhweet!

Any handmade I found in the dirt would make me do cartwheels, but there are some really nice ones there! Love that wide-banded multicolor jasper. (that's what that is, right? in the middle pic?)

Here are the first six inductees again:

Spring 2010:

Berry Pink

Roger Howdyshell

Beri Howdyshell Fox

David McCullough

Howard "Hod" Powell

Dan Grocki

I stand by my thought that your marble is not a small version of a parrot. Looks like a different family.

Parrots are from the 50's, if I understand correctly. Your marble might be from the 30's. If it is, then it is special in a different way from parrots. imho.

I think the issue, is actually the size of the mibs... The Parrots being 3/4 to 1" and the Parakeets being smaller then 3/4...

Yep, size is the issue for a lot of the discussions.

Your marble doesn't look to me like the same family though. Some might call it a parakeet, but it doesn't really look like a small parrot to me. Make sense?

So I would shy away from the name. Yours looks like it could be older. Elite might be what some other collectors would call it. I shy away from that name also, but it might apply.

Other quotation from Ron, dedicated to Mr. Lemon of Vitro.

I will do this again for an old friend,who always looked me up at the local shows. Blaine Lemon was plant manager for Vitro Parkersburg for many years, before Louie Moore. Everytime i saw Blaine he had four to six parrots in his bib overall pocket,and he was proud to show them. The parrots were his favorite Vitro marble. I ask Blaine what was a true parrot. He answered Quote"For a parrot our goal was a white base with FOUR colors on the surface with no white showing,but that is difficult, so many had some white showing. White was not one of the four colors because it is the base color. " Many of the parrots only ended up with three colors because the fourth color of glass in the tank would run out or go empty,thus a three color shooter. When the third color ran out,then it was a two color shooter.

Just because a color ran out in the tank or furnace due to,amount of colored glass,temp,feeding problems,etc,the machine and tank was not stopped or shut down,it would just be swithced to another type,style,color,etc. This switch is where the unusual or odd marbles happens and makes them difficult to ID. During the switch there may be a gallon of marbles made or twenty gallon,depending on how long it takes to get everthing correct,(temp,flow,cutters,rolls,etc) for the type glass or marble wanted. Most of these marbles ended up in the ground at or near the site. Although several of these marbles during switches would be super good,colors and patterns mixing,but almost always were unable to duplicate it again.

Very little 100% dealing with marbles,24hr. shifts,and cheap labor without quality controls,especially night shifts.

For Blaine and myself a Vitro parrot will be four colors and not include white,and the best ones will have no white showing.

The aventurine in some parrots was not a requirement or intentional. It sometimes came from the cullet being used,or a previous run.

These were marbles for PLAY, for children and at the lowest price possible,with what was avialable at that particular week or month.

Blaine Lemon deceased

Thanks Blaine

Ron S.