Steph

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Straight from a Christensen box! Wow!

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Hi Carole! Could I buy/borrow any of that to see it in hand? (buy if you are interested in selling, borrow if you really want to keep it but wouldn't mind parting with it temporarily ) (I'll pay shipping in either case!) My first priority is learning more about the white, but with so many blue base and green base and red ribbon mibs abounding from all makers it would be very cool to see those shades too.

anyone have a couple of beat-up but certifiable cac's they could bear to part with for under $20? pieces would do! I keep reading about how you gotta see cac white in person to really know it, and then you'll wonder how you could ever have mistaken it ... or something like that. I really want to have that experience !!! but so far whenever I've looked for samples from online sources I trust, they've been selling stuff way out of my price range. (calling it a price range is actually giving it too much credit that's why I collect cats) looking for the pathetically pleading but not annoying emoticon ... can't find it .... darn

Curiouser and curiouser. Holly, your marbles all look vintage, or at least potentially so. (Some of the cats and clearies could be newer, but we have no particular reason to think so.) So, if the Czech mib is newer, it is out of context in that way. But it is already out of context in another way, because no matter its age, it is not a common marble, and the rest of your mibs look like a nice, solid, but not exotic set. And whereas the seller of the Czech mib lot currently on eBay has credibly (and refreshingly) claimed they are modern, Marble Alan knows glass pretty darn well himself and he should also be able to judge some things about a mib's origin from the person who consigned them to him for sale, and he ball-parked his similar mibs at around the same era you estimate your mib to be from. So, the clues here are pointing every which way! Curiouser and Curiouser.

Charles, that one hurts to look at ... like a burning bush ....

okay, i'm back, but this is not a guess. at least not one i get credit for. I was looking back at william's remark about aquariums. I think it sounds really plausible as an explanation for the assorted types and uneven wear.

They sure looked mixed. They also look unevenly aged. Not like I remember any of my artificial "beach glass" looking after I took it out of my rock tumbler after any stage. It's a real puzzle that they're all peewees from apparently different makers. I'm done guessing.

If the white-ish based rainbows in that tin have the lavender I think I'm seeing, then I'd guess MK was at least a major contributor to whoever jobbered the lot (is 'jobber' the right verb here??????) but steve, at least some of yours still look different inside.

fwiw, the 4-vane lavender cats at the site ron points to make me think those at that site are modern mk's under the frosting. I don't think the hybrids in Steve's bunch would be mk. who has made multicolor peewee cats? that might be a starting place. -steph

One candidate for 9/16" metallic swirls has gotta be champion. The texture of the loop on the front right mib looks esp. right for a champion metallic. But the rest of the glass does look like it could be foreign.

Thanks. I also have a couple that are moonie like which have the orange peel texture and the crimps at the poles. I was on the fence about that being imperial too. You just bumped me off the fence. P.s. I'm having trouble with the site too. We have a system 9 mac. I don't think it's even advanced enough to get firefox.

I know imperials can be irritating because ebay sellers keep trying to pass them off as antique, handmade, akro or master! I still like some of them though. How old are they really likely to be? That was Question 1. Questions 2 & 3 are whether the two mibs at the front of this group are likely to be imperial. They look sorta imperial in some ways, but both the surface and the seams are much smoother. (click to enlarge) Straighter seams on the other end, esp. on the bluegreen base one: (click) Btw, the main reason I've hung onto the white base one is that it is littered with aventurine.

And this is where a quote would be good ... or at least a hint. At whom are you HUH-ing? At me for my oblique questions or at wediscount2 for his answer? -S

So, less desireable then, and something one should note in grading Pelts. Right? Right. Thanks. -S P.s. Did Peltier try not to sell them as a rule? P.p.s. Would ones with orange peel texture be more likely to be NLR's than rainbos?

What does it mean? Newer? Older? Lesser? Faker? -Steph

Thanks BJ. Since there are different shades of reddish and orange-ish there which specifically are the oxbloods? And who made them? (I think I know, but I am not totally sure and so I ask on behalf of other relative newbies who may read this thread in the archives. )

Need em! All the different flavors from all the different makers if possible. Please upload your images as attachments if possible so they can be permanent. Thanks! Steph

I'm very glad you answered because I was truly in suspense. I've been thinking about what either a yes or a no would mean to ability to trust my gut. If you had said, "No, 5/8 inch", I would have said, "You've shown me that I definitely need to keep my eyes open for more close matches in the realm of Jabo". Since you agreed though, it reinforces what Kris said about me in the first reply to my initial query: I have a good feel for Jabo. Even from a photo. I have strong, generally reliable impressions about the quality of Jabo's glass and the personality of Jabos swirls, in all three main sizes, the 5/8" and the two shooter sizes. And though I'm nowhere near expert, I have a good gut. I can't help thinking these two I'm holding are special.

I recognize the look of those. By the way, what size are they? My guess from the pattern would be shooter, but maybe the small shooter. (3/4"?)

Thanks guys! I'll sit back and give you time to look for your matching mibs. Steph

Thank you, Alan. Butt jokes aside, I was looking at the coincidental and seeming purposeful placement of the so-called pigtails in essentially the same place on both of the marbles I was trying to identify. I was thinking of the "pigtails" as "insets" because they look to be quite distinct from the glass in the rest of the marble. Since the glass of the pigtails/insets is so different from the rest of the marble, this doesn't look to me like a shearing error. And, yes, I want people to look at the glass. Both in the pigtails and in the rest of the marble. Kris started talking about that, and allowed me to point out one difference between my mibs and the stereotypical Jabo. But once again, the abstract fact that Jabos can have U-shaped swirls and wrinkled glass seems to trump the discussion. If my marble looks so much like a Jabo, I want to see the Jabo it looks like! So far all the Jabos that I know are Jabos suffer in a side-by-side comparison to these. I'm open-minded, and I want to know the truth, and if these are Jabos, okay, but if they are someone should be able to produce a picture that really looks like them. Not just words about shared traits. After all, even Akros and CACs and Pelts can all have U-shaped swirls and 'butt cracks'. So, back now to my real specific tangible mibs: The swirls in my two mibs are simple but very rich and bold. Further, the 'cheeks' on the first marble make it seem as if the glass was in a unique state of viscosity as it was formed into the basic marble shape. Like folds of taffy or really thick honey. Then after the glass was folded onto itself, it does not look like it went through a traditional rounding process. I don't know how the machinery works to round out machine-made marbles, but whatever the process is, I don't think it looks like my two swirls went through it. Do you see what I mean? I ask you very seriously. Since the rest of the thread has devolved into giddy humor, I would like to hear what you think about what you see in the glass in the pix I've posted so far. I've held onto these marbles for awhile, waiting for some insight, and I'll keep waiting because I think that some expert is going to dig up something that looks just like these at some very old factory site, and I don't want to be crying and saying, "I knew they were special and I wish I had kept them!". Thanks again, Steph

LOL

That puts me back to my first request. If there are Jabos that look like this, I'd like to see a picture. Does this particular butt crack look like a truly Jabo butt crack? Or do Jabos only wish their butt cracks looked as pretty as this one!