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Blue and green on a white base is not a known Heaton color. That doesn't eliminate Heaton as the maker, but it isn't a known marble by them. It is the most distinct of the combos I have found in these bags. I think I only found 4 or maybe 5 of these Bogard bags that have swirls in them too so far. This is a worthy tangent. You would imagine someone who knew Jack Bogard might clarify whether they did or did not make some simple white based swirls or not.

Whether or not these are legit Bogard swirls in the bags can be a mystery, but I like to believe they are Bogards. There are only a few different ones.

I have Bogard white based swirls found in factory bags in 2 or 3 separate color combos. Good enough for me.

I can't copy and paste either one

I am sure Akro swirls and Bogard swirls would be included when hard to attribute.

I looked up some definitions and found one from the museum and one from marble bag collector extraordinaire Al Rasmus that were both helpful. Al's was the most helpful explanation.

Hopefully by the end of this thread I will understand what West Virginia swirl fully means. I really thought it had a timeline essence to it.

Do D.A.S. swirl type marbles made in Pennsboro classify? Why or why not?

That is my question ...what does West Virginia swirl mean? Does it really just mean swirls made by marble companies located in West Virginia, or is it a classification for marbles that look like the swirls made by American companies back in the day? Can some Vacors be WV swirls? Can JABOs? Are only Champion swirls made prior to 1970 WV swirls? What does it mean?

Vitro shooters that don't qualify as WV swirls for discussion's sake

OK, but please define the requirements for that list so I am clear. Does age have anything to do with it? For example, do Champion swirls made in 2000s qualify? If so, why/how?

I assumed we were talking about American swirls. Were we really talking about West Virginia factories only? When I hear WV swirl (which she didn't actually say but I assumed she meant), I have always assumed it meant a swirl type marble that was unattributable to the person talking about it basically, but could have been made anywhere in the world. What does West Virginia swirl mean?

like the top left ones

The 3 Steph isn't sure about are JABOs for sure. That bottom right is most likely Alley, but could be JABO. The top left has a chance of JABO too, but not sure.

Champion New Old Fashioned perhaps...

The y look like 3/4" JABOs to me.

The difference between .7 and .75 opens up so many more possibilities. Champion and Vitro Anacortes have a few 3/4" marbles but JABO and D.A.S. have a lot of shooter sized marbles out there in the world. I don't find WV swirl shooters made by other American companies beyond Alley and those mentionned. I know they are out there, but I never find them (that I can think of).

Some of the black 4 vane Bogards can look like bananas too. I think I might have some foreign ones too, but not so sure without refreshing myself

Mountaineer

There are both JABOs and even Sammy's Mountain Marbles that are like that marble too just so you all know...

Weeee!

Also a chance its a sweet Vacor Dragonfly... Vorkscrew

Is it a peewee or 5/8"?

Most likely JABO from post Dave tankwash. The cobalt based ones were in 2012 I believe, but there might have been some in 2013 or 2014 too.

Something along the lines of a Premium Run or Ultra Run most likely, but there are a couple of other runs beyond those two that have similar marbles also.