Chad G.

Gropper & pelt are synonymous "I Think " ?? OP Vitro ??

Mid Atlantics (1990- 2004) only pix I have LINK :: https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=53850&p=387602&hilit=md+atlantic#p387602 LINK :: https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=45276&p=332342&hilit=md+atlantic#p332342

Old pix of a submarine I had auctioned off in 09 for this "Thüringen Thursday"

Akro made the highest number of slags, Feebay will tell you whatever fetches the most $$$ Nice MF BTW Lauren I like em all

Oop !! I meant trans green base, my bad

Clear transparent base w/ red and yellow ribbons is a Pelt clown to me.

I was thinking the same, due to the size I was gonna go with an opaque clown that's why I asked if it was opaque black or not ??

The bionic rainbo is a real marble, here's the authentic Bionic Rainbo LINK :: https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31869&start=0 LINK :: https://www.ebay.com/itm/325906439926?hash=item4be1899ef6%3Ag%3Ao24AAOSwHZhlZnhU&mkevt=1&mkcid

x2, same here, I would go with Champion as #1 as well

The Peltier bionic Rainbo ended earlier today, I'll try and find it. Ah, here it is !! I can almost hear Lee Majors in the background !! LINK :: https://www.ebay.com/itm/325906439926?hash=item4be1899ef6%3Ag%3Ao24AAOSwHZhlZnhU&mkevt=1&mkcid

Thanks Al

This is what I could find, but yes I have seen the box before and believe it to be 100-% authentic, though the box appears to be backfilled, I think they held Masters originally ?? Not sure ?? LINK :: https://marbleconnection.com/topic/24968-red-goose-shoes-marble-display/#comment-218956 LINK :: https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16484&p=135308&hilit=red+goose+shoes+box#p135308 Maybe @spara50 (Craig) knows what kind of mibs these boxes originally held ??

Is it opaque black based ??

Halloween's refer to Alleys as far as I know Looks like an orange base to me ??

Yes, I save everything

Peltier Tiger, unpolished

Leaning Pelt Rainbo, but I could be wrong, I have a hard time w/ some ko ko's ?? More opinions needed

Wiger is a Pelt I.D. name as far as I know ?? Base glass on a Pelt Wiger is half red (Wasp) & half orange (Tiger) plus the black ribbon which can contain av. or not. In most cases concerning a Pelt Wiger usually not. LINK :: https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46688&p=340671&hilit=wiger#p340671 LINK :: https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48026&p=348182&hilit=wiger#p348182

There is a difference between the two, the Pelt Chocolate cows have Av. & MK the don't, @ least that I've ever seen.

I think Chuck just posted the pic explanations backwards, #1 is a Rainbo and pic #2 is an NLR, something I've been guilty of many times

Agree, Pelt

I'll admit it does look like a Pelt to me too, the av. thing was just gonna be the clincher

@Chuck G I thought Turtle Doves were Rainbos and Juggernaut's were NLR's ?? Really I don't know Chuck, I never could get these straight in my head By the bye, the grey base on the "Juggernaut" is much greyer than it appears (more like the first pic) the photo is from Terry's (GRANDPAMARBLES) site, I've gave away two marbles just like it in the past, wish I never would have let them go but they went to a good cause, didn't realize how HTF they were Turtle Dove AAM posts LINK :: https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=55326&p= Another point of view ?? LINK :: https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=51339&p= Juggernaut LINK :: http://grandpamarble.com/html/gm2056.html Grey based Rainbo ?? NLR ?? Dove ?? Juggernaut?? I'm all ears 👂 "Please" look @ all the links I've posted, I had more but didn't want to add to the confusion, there's already smoke coming out of my ears .....

Thanks Ric

They do have Pincer attributes ?? Hmm?? Maybe @Steph will stop by w/ some more info ??