LevvyPoole

On 7/12/2025 at 12:03 PM, marblemanvintagemarbles said:

Take a picture of the marble on a black, or dark grey background and you should be able to pull out those details your trying to show. 

Brilliant, thanks for encouraging me to give it another go. After a bit of experimentation I settled on black background, in a glass of water. Feel like I've graduated in some way now that I've been fishing round with a wet hand, trying to get the best part of a swirl upright 😀

On 7/10/2025 at 6:34 PM, Nantucketdink said:

obviously they are right there.  fun British marbles

I'll take that as my answer,thanks. Glad I finally know what they look like.

Thanks. It came with this one which I had pegged as Alley, so that makes more sense.

Range from about 13.8-15.8mm

Do opaque whisplers even exist?

5/8

Struggling to capture the depth and variety of colour on this swirl, had to use flash to get as close as I could.

Tan, then thin red line, then grayish purple and brown, all seem opaque.

Wishing you all the best for your recovery.

Finding this hobby and forum also came to me at a very difficult time in my life, just when I needed it. The respect between users, passion displayed and the neverending beauty and mystery of these marbles means it is such a nice place to spend time.

@shiroaiko, that is very good advice. Most of my lots have come from Ebay sellers, and I suppose it never occurred to me to ask history as I didn't want to 'bother' anyone unnecessarily, especially those trying to make a living. Some people may even appreciate the interest.

Wow! Absolutely beautiful 😍 

On 4/12/2025 at 2:37 PM, shiroaiko said:

@davesnothere, I think a lot of people end up mixing lots, especially after sorting out certain types of marbles. I also get the urge to classify everything and put one type in each box, which would make my shelf more organized. I love English wisplers and I couldn't resist doing it for them. Once I remove marbles from lots, I forget everything. So I regret and don't do this for other marbles.

Early marbles are nice. 😊 I also like them very much.  

I'm glad you said this, I keep almost mixing my best lot into the other groups, but something keeps holding me back, I will make sure it remains together. 

And I've just realised that this one is probably part of the family too, not a wonky peltier, as thought (and agreed on here, oops), clearly showing that context can be very important. @I'llhavethat1 got it right I think, despite being the lone voice on that ID. 

In fact, these came in the collection too, which definitely point towards Japanese to me after looking at your pictures.

On 3/26/2025 at 11:30 PM, shiroaiko said:

White ribbons.

I've had these set aside from a nice collection I got a few months ago, not quite sure if they all belong together but my intuition on the 2 smaller ones has been telling me Japanese origin...

5 minutes ago, shiroaiko said:

@Ric, thanks in advance for your help. It's good news to me—I've always wanted to study marbles that are still in their original boxes.

The general definition of Veiligglas wirepulls was shaped at a time when Seike marbles weren’t yet recognized in the marble community. Now that we’re seeing three possible makers of wirepulls, I think it’s time we study original boxed sets with fresh eyes. 

Yes, good point. Seike isn't one that I've spent a lot of time looking into yet (I had forgotten that I intended to at some point, probably getting distracted by another avenue), so will spend some time seeing what I notice. 

And finally...I think we are all agreed these are definitely veiligglas?

A real beauty. I've added some with a couple of the opaques to show some strong similarities in the surface lines.

31/32, lovely bright orange.

This one confused me a bit, so I took some pictures with the smaller orange and white ones from the Gibson solitaire board. The shade is very similar, but I think the definition of the lines and glass quality can clearly be seen to differ. 

Pretty standard, but nice clear structureto the lines, 29/32.

7/8

Some striations can be seen on surface, same as the blues. Ever such a slight companion line in green within this one. 

31/32

Slight blue-ish hint to some of the surface white.

29 minutes ago, Ric said:

They all look Dutch to me, Megan. The white one upper left is very nice!

Yep - it's stunning, that one, hard to fully capture though!

I'll start with the 2 very similar blues. They both have a white line as well, however this is very faint within one, this one also has a large bubble. Faint striations can be seen on the surface of the clear glass on both. The white follows a similar  pattern to the blue, however definitely deviates from the path of the blue line in both. Size 7/8.

First 3 pics are same marble, next 2 are the other.

Finally ready to put up some more pictures and ensure this discussion slowly rumbles onwards.

It's taken me a while to edit these. 

My current knowledge is leading me to put this group down as veiligglas, although I'm not quite sure about the 2 smaller blue and white ones (both 7/8). 

Individual pics to follow.

14 hours ago, Ric said:

A wirepull should have one continuous filament/ribbon so you should only see two ends. I think a couple of the ones you've posted today could be wirepulls but it will be near impossible for anyone but you to know for sure, since the "wire" can dive and resurface numerous times and that is very difficult to see in  photos.

I could see the left one here being a wirepull but there is no way I can tell for sure from here.

Hmm, but at which point does something change classification from swirl to wirepull if it is one thread? Something to do with the construction or manufacturing method? I'll do some closer inspections. 

From AAM - 

• On the Euro-wirepull types, the ribbon usually stays pretty uniform in width for the most part, meaning it doesn't taper much and stays the same thickness though out the swirling pattern. It would be very unusual to have a wispy white ribbon.
• The definition of a "Wirepull" is one continuous ribbon that doesn't break off. But, guess what? Many USA swirls are made the same way and do the same thing, but vary in ways of the ribbon staying more uniform. If enough wirepulls are investigated, examples will be found where they do taper and swell but it is a numbers/percentage concept. Many more WV swirls that taper and swell will be found than Euro-wirepull types tapering and swelling.

Yeah, I've tried following them and think a few of them seem continuous, I'll try to keep this in mind.. 

Thanks so much, that's very helpful. I hadn't seen any of theses ITH yet, so couldn't place them. They aren't in the greatest condition, but definitely a step on for my learning.