Political Correctness And Marble Ids

[kbobam]

People who've recently acquired marbles and are requesting information

frequently first mention details about where they came from in a detailed

way that would suggest a 'minimum age'.

I'm wondering if it wouldn't be a worthwhile thing in a response to first address

whether these opening statements hold true or even make any sense whatsoever.

It might be doing a good service to both the original poster and those who read the

information later.

A recent post in the ID section had a question from someone who first mentioned

that the marbles involved came from 'a man in his 70's' who 'said that the marbles

came from his father'.

The people who responded all know a gazillion times more about marbles than I do,

and there's no doubt that their responses were correct.

But they only mentioned a small number of the large group that was shown.

Here's what I really wanted to know. The 'seller' is in his 70's.

When you think about it, does that matter at all?

And how about his father?

Who could be 86 and bought the marbles a week ago.

[lstmmrbls]

I just went and looked at a 35 year old mans Fathers and Grand Fathers marble collection last week end. There was a hand ground agate, one bennington 2 slags and 3 Peltier rainbos. And about 2-300 Mexican and Asian marbles.. He had some wonderful antiques in his home and it was a great time hearing about and seeing some documentation on some of his past relatives. Had a great time! But he had to hear my spiel about how if there is a contanor of marbles in a home all marbles that enter that home seem to get put in the container. I have been to numerous homes to view containers of marbles where the owners were in their 70s and 80s. All but 3 of every collection I have viewed contained at least some new marbles. and a majority contained mostly newer marbles?? I guess grandkids bring marbles to add to the grandparents marbles??? Or maybe they take them from the kids(LOL)

[kbobam]

Thanks for describing this sort of situation in a nicer way than I did and adding some explanation.

I think I'm in one of my 'overall generally irritated' moods tonight.

You know what also bugs me? When people make a post in the 'Introduce Yourself' section and

are never heard from again. Especially when they get the timing just right and wind up with a large

number of genuinely kind responses.

I'm pretty sure this is a flaw in my character which I wish wasn't there.

But I can't help it. ( :

[lstmmrbls]

not a flaw, just part of getting older and crotchety(LOL)

[ausman]

Welcome to the club!!

[BobBlock]

I've telling people for years that unless you watched the marbles put into Grandpa's attic and then you sat there and watched the box since 19whatever, you really have know way of knowing how old those marbles are.

[wvrons]

A person asking for identification help from me can say anything they like correct or not. Because whatever or anything they say about the marbles past wil have no influence on any identification i give. The marbles will tell their own story. If they do not then my answer is i am not sure or i do not know.

I don't care at all or is no help to me at all if the past owner was 25 or 85 years old. It makes no difference to me,if the marbles were kept or found in the attic barn basement coffee can or grandmas underware drawer. I have seen to many newer marbles in with vintage marbles that have never been touched since the 1940 or 50's. Most everything they had was Peltier or most everything in the group was Peltier. So how did that one Jabo or Vacor get in there ? But they do and the majority of the time. Like has been said you generally have no way of knowing 100% true the backgorund or history of the marbles accurately. Very few marbles go untouched since 1930-40-50's unless they have been buried in the ground. Some original vintage groups and finds will show up. But we all know they are not around every corner or at most flea markets or antique shops.

[kbobam]

Thanks for the additional viewpoints.

I admire you guys.

I'm hoping to someday get to that same level where I can just

be straight-forward and not worry about stupid stuff so much. ( :

[ann]

Somebody's gotta worry about stupid stuff.

And, if you're like me, you're not really worrying about it.

You're just annoyed by it.

Going back to Galen's (and ausman's and my very own) old and crotchety thing.

I just don't usually have the energy anymore to even mention things that annoy the crap out of me. So I'm glad you do, you whippersnapper.

[dbarney2012]

A person asking for identification help from me can say anything they like correct or not. Because whatever or anything they say about the marbles past wil have no influence on any identification i give. The marbles will tell their own story. If they do not then my answer is i am not sure or i do not know.

I don't care at all or is no help to me at all if the past owner was 25 or 85 years old. It makes no difference to me,if the marbles were kept or found in the attic barn basement coffee can or grandmas underware drawer. I have seen to many newer marbles in with vintage marbles that have never been touched since the 1940 or 50's. Most everything they had was Peltier or most everything in the group was Peltier. So how did that one Jabo or Vacor get in there ? But they do and the majority of the time. Like has been said you generally have no way of knowing 100% true the backgorund or history of the marbles accurately. Very few marbles go untouched since 1930-40-50's unless they have been buried in the ground. Some original vintage groups and finds will show up. But we all know they are not around every corner or at most flea markets or antique shops.

My opinion is -This statement is dead on. Lifes to short.

Dennis