SherryFain Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 After reading Jeremysvt’s post, and links given by Chad, I went hunting through by box.. am I close to the phantom conqueror? .84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 Nope ! It’s even better. It is a Vitro with the cool contaminant ribbon. 🔥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 Not Vitro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherryFain Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 This one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherryFain Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 5/8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherryFain Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 19/32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Roberto Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 Yes, the latter are conquerors 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 If not Vitro on the first one. Who’s Horse Hair is that ? 🔥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherryFain Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fire1981 said: If not Vitro on the first one. Who’s Horse Hair is that ? 🔥 Horse hair? 🐴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 Horse Hair is that black ribbon that looks like a piece of horse hair or a piece of thread. I think it’s a Vitro trait in pics 3 and 5 show it the best. 🔥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherryFain Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 Ahhhhh ok! Thanks 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 The first is a flopped ingot style. It's either JABO or Cairo. The size could go for either. I agree not Vitro, by construction and also the seedy glass. I lean toward JABO but they don't usually have the seedy glass either. Looks a bit too nice glass and tightly folded for what I'd expect from Cairo this size. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherryFain Posted October 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Here’s a backlit pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 I’m sticking with Vitro. It’s a 2 seam marble which excludes WVS 🔥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Every machine made marble has 2 seams. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Aren’t there one seam CAC’s. Or am I mislead or wrong🔥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Either way I see this marble being of the common 2 seam configuration of a lot of common marbles. If this marble was a swirl the horse hair would be twisted up in the matrix. The Horse Hair on one this stops at the seams. 🔥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 There wouldn’t be a patch either 🔥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Even the single seam CACs, if they are machine made, they have 2 seams. It's impossible to have a one seam machine made marble except for the very first gob of glass that comes out when the tank is opened, and that is garbage because the rollers are cold, nothing is working yet. You might only see one seam, but there are two. The marble before it was cut off, there's the one seam, and the cut where the marble in question was made, that's the other. This has both seams at the same place because the ingot folded on itself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 That dark line is not known as horsehair. Horsehair does not have dark blobs in it. Horsehair started out as a small narrow line of oxblood. Then later the name stretch kicked in and any small narrow dark line was horsehair. But all of these were and are solid steady small narrow line of darker color. The marble above has a dark line but the dark color is bleeding from dark pieces or chunks of some contamination or unmelted chemical or colorant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocyclist Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 8 hours ago, wvrons said: That dark line is not known as horsehair. Horsehair does not have dark blobs in it. Horsehair started out as a small narrow line of oxblood. Then later the name stretch kicked in and any small narrow dark line was horsehair. But all of these were and are solid steady small narrow line of darker color. The marble above has a dark line but the dark color is bleeding from dark pieces or chunks of some contamination or unmelted chemical or colorant. I'm going to "unstretch" and make sure I only call a thin line of oxblood as horsehair. Thnx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremysvt Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 9:03 AM, SherryFain said: This one? that is a conqueror. i think op maybe akro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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