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Just thought I'd post these. I think they are probably Japanese. A lot of them look like they are trying to be Peltiers or Marble Kings, but the glass is not quite right. I was wondering if anybody else has seen these, or if they've ended up in anybody's "what the heck is that" jar. 

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5 hours ago, YasudaCollector said:

Just thought I'd post these.

Both sides or both seams can help in any ID for sure.
The one that I will question is the middle row on the left—the blue and white. It reminds me of a Master Glass marble from WV.
The one to the lower right—brown and white also may be from the USA.
It is very hard to tell with the one image.
The rest I can agree are foreign.
I appreciate all opinions and look forward to some more.
Marble—On!!
 

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I know what you mean, there are some that look an awful lot like Pelt construction but are really figure 8 style.  Then you get into the Master brushed patch style.  Easier to distinguish in a group from UK, Euro, Canada but mixed in a lot of US marbles they can be hard to tell apart

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 Here is one I believe now to be Japanese made marble it's a corkscrew and style but the more I look at it the more Japanese I feel about it what do you think

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On 4/28/2024 at 11:01 AM, Joe2 said:

I was wondering about this one possibly being Japanese machine made marble

 

This one looks like a Master "Brushed Patch" to me Joe2---nice one!

2 hours ago, Joe2 said:

it's a corkscrew

It is a corkscrew Joe2 made by Akro Agate.

Marble--On!!

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48 minutes ago, akroorka said:

This one looks like a Master "Brushed Patch" to me Joe2---nice one!

It is a corkscrew Joe2 made by Akro Agate.

Marble--On!!

 

48 minutes ago, akroorka said:

This one looks like a Master "Brushed Patch" to me Joe2---nice one!

It is a corkscrew Joe2 made by Akro Agate.

Marble--On!!

Thank you , I've not seen Master Marbles with one single seem. It must be late coming 

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On 4/29/2024 at 1:40 PM, Joe2 said:

Thank you , I've not seen Master Marbles with one single seem. It must be late coming 

Hey Joe2, 
A nice response for sure and I appreciate it without a doubt.
This is just for the education of the uninformed that may read this.
The term used by collectors as “single seam” is a misnomer.
These single seams are more often than not described as CAC “single seam marbles”. They may be called “Diaper Folds”as well.
All glass marbles will have two cutoff points; they have to have two if you do any research into the production of these very desirable little orbs.
A glob of glass has to be cutoff at two points—this is just the way.
The only exception may be torch made marbles—only because I am not very familiar with this method.
I appreciate all opinions and hope to see some more.
Marble—On!!

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32 minutes ago, YasudaCollector said:

American or foreign/Japanese? 

I am OK with calling your last images Japenese.

The red and white may be a question---

Marble--On!!

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Sorry that I step in...  the half & half marble in brown-amber and white marble is Seike's. Naoyuki SEIKE applied for Showa6-1756 Glass Crucible in Sep. 1930.

The patent article can be seen at https://www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/c1801/PU/JP-S06-001756/22/ja

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It was an automatic marble making device which made dual color marbles. Although the crucible got only one air pressure bulb here, Seike soon made a change so that each color being separated in the crucible could be controlled by the air pressure system individually as it flows from the bottom outlet. (Showa6-3939 application date on Nov. 1930 https://www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/c1801/PU/JP-S06-003939/22/ja)

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These half & halves are sourced from UK and Japan. UK was the largest customer of prewar Seike marbles. He also exported many crease pontil transitionals.

Below are half & halves and their variations. 

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I hope this helps understand the early machinemades that he made. Mushrooms in puzzle boxes are also made by Seike (but I only have a few examples).

 

 

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I'm sorry. The last 3 pictures are not fitting the context. I don't completely understand the photo uploading system here, being a new comer.

Those 3 were excluded, since I thought the total file size exceeds the limit. 

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On 5/13/2024 at 3:30 AM, shiroaiko said:

Sorry that I step in...

Step in all that you like shiroaiko, you have shown us some interesting stuff---keep it coming please.

Air pressure in a marble machine? This is a first for me.

Very cool!

Marble--On!!

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