jeslar1976 Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 I love looking through all these pictures and conversations. I think I’m finally getting somewhere. 1st… Akro corkscrew? 2nd….. German handmade mica.. 3rd….. Master marble brushed patch? 4th….. corkscrew? Im not sure on the maker of this one yet. Then I have a couple I just don’t know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 I think #1 (Lazy Cork/Patch), #4 (Auger Corkscrew), #5 (Patch) are Akro, I don't see mica in #2. I agree #3 is Master (Brushed Patch). #6 is hard to tell without more views. #7 looks like a Ravenswood and #8 looks like a weak Alley Chalky to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marblemanvintagemarbles Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 I see the Mica in #2 it's definelyy a German Mica #4 looks like a snake type corkscrew I bet it glows under uv really bright. # 5 is a vitro and # 6 may be an akro or cac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeslar1976 Posted April 11 Author Report Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Ric said: I think #1 (Lazy Cork/Patch), #4 (Auger Corkscrew), #5 (Patch) are Akro, I don't see mica in #2. I agree #3 is Master (Brushed Patch). #6 is hard to tell without more views. #7 looks like a Ravenswood and #8 looks like a weak Alley Chalky to me. The white line in the one you call chalky had me. So weird I can feel it. I had no clue thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeslar1976 Posted April 11 Author Report Share Posted April 11 15 minutes ago, marblemanvintagemarbles said: I see the Mica in #2 it's definelyy a German Mica #4 looks like a snake type corkscrew I bet it glows under uv really bright. # 5 is a vitro and # 6 may be an akro or cac It does glow super bright I could use that bugger light a night light.. more pics of the orange one. I have a few that are almost identical to it just different colors. Thank you for the info. I have been non stop trying to figure these out😂 people in this house are starting to get annoyed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 10 minutes ago, jeslar1976 said: .. more pics of the orange one. I think that's a machine-made marble that got spun - hard to tell who made it though. It happened from time to time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeslar1976 Posted April 11 Author Report Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, Ric said: I think that's a machine-made marble that got spun - hard to tell who made it though. It happened from time to time. Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marblemanvintagemarbles Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Show some more pics of that green one. I see the Mica on the bottom left of the pic you showed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 I'll need to see that chalkie in hand To verify 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 On 4/10/2025 at 6:42 PM, jeslar1976 said: I love looking through all these pictures and conversations. I will comment on the first image and the last one as well in the OP. The first is a nice corkscrew and the last one qualifies as a----- On 4/10/2025 at 7:08 PM, Ric said: a weak Alley Chalky to me. Agreed. Nice find--it may have been found in a bag of sold/marketed marbles vs one from a dig. Very cool find! Marble--On!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeslar1976 Posted April 12 Author Report Share Posted April 12 8 hours ago, marblemanvintagemarbles said: Show some more pics of that green one. I see the Mica on the bottom left of the pic you showed. So I have 2 I always thought it was some kind of damage until I started reading more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeslar1976 Posted April 12 Author Report Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, jeslar1976 said: So I have 2 I always thought it was some kind of damage until I started reading more. It almost looks like glitter or chips but it’s perfectly smooth. I mean you can feel the uneven surface but it’s not a chipped surface if that makes sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marblemanvintagemarbles Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 19 minutes ago, jeslar1976 said: So I have 2 I always thought it was some kind of damage until I started reading more. That's a handmade Mica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeslar1976 Posted April 12 Author Report Share Posted April 12 20 minutes ago, akroorka said: I will comment on the first image and the last one as well in the OP. The first is a nice corkscrew and the last one qualifies as a----- Agreed. Nice find--it may have been found in a bag of sold/marketed marbles vs one from a dig. Very cool find! Marble--On!! I appreciate all the information and kindness from everyone. I have always just been drawn to the old marbles. I just grab jars when I go to estate sales or antique stores. I haven’t participated in online sales or purchased expensive individual ones. I love finding them in the ground most. I have never paid a lot of attention until recently. This group is just one of the best I have found. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marblemanvintagemarbles Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 That rough spot if where it came of the punty rod showing that it's handmade. I could see the Mica in the first picture you showed but it was pretty hard to decipher. Sometimes it's super hard to tell with a single picture but it looked it to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 4 minutes ago, marblemanvintagemarbles said: That's a handmade Mica X2 now that we can see the poles. Nice marble this one!! Marble--On!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 26 minutes ago, jeslar1976 said: So I have 2 I always thought it was some kind of damage until I started reading more. On this latest green one image #3 and #4 show where it was cut off . One end was as made, slightley rounded by hand and one was ground. It was more than likely gathered by hand out of a pot of glass and cut off by hand by a shears and barely rounded by hand—no machines involved here—man made. The Ground part was just sticking out too far to be at least semi round. A pretty cool find imho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeslar1976 Posted April 12 Author Report Share Posted April 12 13 minutes ago, akroorka said: X2 now that we can see the poles. Nice marble this one!! Marble--On!! So I have a question the other one I have I really don’t think has mica. I can’t really tell but it appears to only have one pontil spot. Which I’m assuming would mean it’s the first from the rod? Does that make a difference? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 10 minutes ago, jeslar1976 said: Does that make a difference? The rest of the marbles that you show are macine made. They came out of a large furnace containing the same glass, were cutoff by a machine and rounded by a machine. The "Chalkey" that you show would have been picked out and disgarded by quality control--some were no doubt missed. It has been observed that this may have been a result of being buried over the years and a result of that--who really knows?\ All Marbles have two cutoff points. Some may look like pontils--but pontils are a handmade term only. Marble--On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 50 minutes ago, jeslar1976 said: So I have 2 I always thought it was some kind of damage until I started reading more. Oh yeah, it's clear from these photos - nice mica. What is this horizontal feature I see in photo #3? I think I see it in photo #1 too. Can you feel it? Is it sort of a groove? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeslar1976 Posted April 12 Author Report Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Ric said: Oh yeah, it's clear from these photos - nice mica. What is this horizontal feature I see in photo #3? I think I see it in photo #1 too. Can you feel it? Is it sort of a groove? No I saw it in the picture also it’s feels smooth. Like some of the marbles I have that have weird spots similar to this I can feel or catch with my finger nail. I don’t feel this one. To just look at it you can’t even see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeslar1976 Posted April 12 Author Report Share Posted April 12 9 minutes ago, akroorka said: The rest of the marbles that you show are macine made. They came out of a large furnace containing the same glass, were cutoff by a machine and rounded by a machine. The "Chalkey" that you show would have been picked out and disgarded by quality control--some were no doubt missed. It has been observed that this may have been a result of being buried over the years and a result of that--who really knows?\ All Marbles have two cutoff points. Some may look like pontils--but pontils are a handmade term only. Marble--On!! I mean on the German one. I have one of those lattice looking ones and you can see the 2 spots. I have 2 of the green German ones the one I shared pictures of and a second one that looks to be in rougher shape but I only see one spot on it. I can share pictures with you. Maybe you be able to see what I can’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeslar1976 Posted April 12 Author Report Share Posted April 12 4 minutes ago, jeslar1976 said: I mean on the German one. I have one of those lattice looking ones and you can see the 2 spots. I have 2 of the green German ones the one I shared pictures of and a second one that looks to be in rougher shape but I only see one spot on it. I can share pictures with you. Maybe you be able to see what I can’t. On this one you can clearly tell it hand made but I can’t see a top spot only a bottom. Maybe it was smoothed over better? Thank you for explaining that as well I literally feel kinda dumb about the marbles now. How I have been so infatuated with them for so long and I never really had the time to learn more about them. I’m a little embarrassed to be so clueless. This one has a much prettier green. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 24 minutes ago, jeslar1976 said: . . . I can’t really tell but it appears to only have one pontil spot. There are some hand-gathered marbles that only have one pontil - they are fully hand-made, no machine involved. Some people might call the single cut-off on a transitional marble a "pontil" too - I am not usually one of them. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 9 minutes ago, jeslar1976 said: On this one you can clearly tell it hand made but I can’t see a top spot only a bottom. Is it possible there is damage obscuring the other pontil, which should be pretty much opposite the one you can see? It sort of looks that way to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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