Kool Cat

[davesnothere]

Under 1" not sure of maker suspect vacor do to clear glass.

[I'llhavethat1]

Based on construction, size, and orange peel surface texture I'd consider European sparkler.  With a couple less colors than normal.

[davesnothere]

@I'llhavethat1 thank you. 

[Ric]

I agree with Euro Sparkler but I often wonder if this type was actually made there. I would not call them "whispler" types. I'm pretty sure they're not Veiligglas. And they look different than the "sparklers" made at the Technische Glaswerke in Ilmenau, Germany. Could they have been imported to Europe from elsewhere, perhaps Asia? I imagine there must have been other factories producing machine-made "sparkler" types in Europe. But what do we really know about the origin of marbles like this one?

[davesnothere]

16 minutes ago, Ric said:

I agree with Euro Sparkler but I often wonder if this type was actually made there. I would not call them "whispler" types. I'm pretty sure they're not Veiligglas. And they look different than the "sparklers" made at the Technische Glaswerke in Ilmenau, Germany. Could they have been imported to Europe from elsewhere, perhaps Asia? I imagine there must have been other factories producing machine-made "sparkler" types in Europe. But what do we really know about the origin of marbles like this one?

I agree with your thinking.

Also my thinking .I think these types are not intentionally made but a start of a run, intended to be whatever opaque style, and these are the fillers.

Wasn't it the akros that were dug? 

I sure wonder about german as well just because the machine made mibs are thin colored and dull.

[Ric]

@davesnothere I don't really think of the marbles from TGI as thin and dull.

[Ric]

@davesnothere As for Akro . . . plenty of sparklers were sold outright and most dug ones probably wouldn't pass QC.

[davesnothere]

@Ric here's my reference photo not my box. these are the machine mades I see.

Dull imo.

[davesnothere]

I can see where thos is headed.

Thanks for the ID!

[Ric]

@davesnothere It looks like some of those in the box might qualify as German (or Euro) slags or striped transparents. What do you think?

[akroorka]

13 hours ago, davesnothere said:

Under 1" not sure of maker suspect vacor do to clear glass.

 

I agree--a big Vacor Cat.

Marble--On!!

[Al Oregon]

The pairs of vanes, three color aspect of that marble leads me to a cat's-eye ID.

[Mojo]

Vacor catseye 

Not a sparkler ✌🏻

[akroorka]

On 4/11/2025 at 3:08 PM, davesnothere said:

these are the machine mades I see.

Lets get back to the box.

I wonder what @shiroaiko has to say. The box looks like it is from asia to me.

Marble--On!!

[shiroaiko]

Thanks for letting me join, @akroorka😃

I identify them as German seam slags. Colors and style match.  Something unique to this maker is peachy pink. 

In 2023 Nov. I came across an eBay listing which identified the slags as Seppenhütte product. Since I never heard of the maker‘s name, I asked the seller if the information came from a reliable source. 

The response; the seller‘s uncle served as the second boss at the glasswork, and the seller played with the marbles as a child. 

The machine-rolled Striped Transparents were only a newer product to them. The marbles from Seppen Hütte were almost exclusively handmades using marble scissors before 1945. They were mainly clambroths and banded opaques. The original marble machine was scrapped around 1976. 
 

 

 

[LevvyPoole]

2 hours ago, shiroaiko said:

Thanks for letting me join, @akroorka😃

I identify them as German seam slags. Colors and style match.  Something unique to this maker is peachy pink. 

In 2023 Nov. I came across an eBay listing which identified the slags as Seppenhütte product. Since I never heard of the maker‘s name, I asked the seller if the information came from a reliable source. 

The response; the seller‘s uncle served as the second boss at the glasswork, and the seller played with the marbles as a child. 

The machine-rolled Striped Transparents were only a newer product to them. The marbles from Seppen Hütte were almost exclusively handmades using marble scissors before 1945. They were mainly clambroths and banded opaques. The original marble machine was scrapped around 1976. 
 

 

 

Thanks again for sharing some more well researched knowledge!

[shiroaiko]

@LevvyPoole, You're welcome. I was lucky to come across the seller, who was kind to share the story. 😃

 

[LevvyPoole]

This thread prompted me to have another look at an Ebay lot that I spotted a couple of weeks ago. They were originally up for £20, which I thought too much, but price had now dropped to £12.99 so I went for them... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/187140919546?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=nQpzZPSISuS&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=cjbdL6h6Ree&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[shiroaiko]

Have you got screenshots? It seems the listing has been ended. Pictures are not available.

[LevvyPoole]

I had to work a little get them. Original listing had ended, so I looked at relisted item, saw the price had been reduced but that one had also ended, so I emailed seller and said I'd like to buy, they put them up, I bid then they ended it with me as winner. 

Don't really know what condition they will be in but it looks like there will be some nice ones. 

Sorry @davesnothere for hijacking your thread!

[davesnothere]

15 minutes ago, LevvyPoole said:

I had to work a little get them. Original listing had ended, so I looked at relisted item, saw the price had been reduced but that one had also ended, so I emailed seller and said I'd like to buy, they put them up, I bid then they ended it with me as winner. 

Don't really know what condition they will be in but it looks like there will be some nice ones. 

Sorry @davesnothere for hijacking your thread!

No worries I don't mind a hijacking when it's something to learn from.

Looking forward to seeing some.of these in close ups.

[davesnothere]

8 hours ago, shiroaiko said:

Thanks for letting me join, @akroorka😃

I identify them as German seam slags. Colors and style match.  Something unique to this maker is peachy pink. 

In 2023 Nov. I came across an eBay listing which identified the slags as Seppenhütte product. Since I never heard of the maker‘s name, I asked the seller if the information came from a reliable source. 

The response; the seller‘s uncle served as the second boss at the glasswork, and the seller played with the marbles as a child. 

The machine-rolled Striped Transparents were only a newer product to them. The marbles from Seppen Hütte were almost exclusively handmades using marble scissors before 1945. They were mainly clambroths and banded opaques. The original marble machine was scrapped around 1976. 
 

Again weird but I see these all the time and I have to convince people they're german.

Thanks!

 

 

[shiroaiko]

@davesnothere You're welcome. Since slags are made with jst two colors, they cannot be compared to handmades in terms of visual appeal. But I'm always impressed by how perfectly round they are. The makers/machinery had a high level of precision and consistency in their work.